At The Daily Caller, I'm asking whether Obama might be just successful and popular enough to win a second term that falls well short of popularity and success when he serves it out. The latest polls, after all, suggest that at least half of Americans think his health reform is bad and his presidency is a failure. Call it Dubya's revenge.

Some Republicans seem to fear that a loss in 2012 would kick off a crushing rout. But couldn't a second Obama administration instead give the GOP a chance to regroup, recharge, and refine its brand -- without hardwiring another layer of liberal rule into federal governance?

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DocJay
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DocJay

Snow Bird. A community of idiots indeed.

~Paules
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Jun '10
~Paules

A second Obama term would mean the end of the American republic.  Not even a fiscal meltdown will stop him.  The president is a totalitarian for whom the accrual of power is everything.  Let me offer just two words of warning:  Reichstag fire.  You better believe it.    

Shane McGuire
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Feb '12
Shane McGuire

Short of the Supreme Court holding that Obamacare is unconstitutional, isn't the next presidential term the only opportunity for repeal? Once people are accustomed to their employers being required to provide health insurance, and once they're accustomed to the pre-existing conditions requirement, and once families become dependent on their 20-somethings being on their parents' health insurance, Obamacare cannot be repealed. It's now or never, in my opinion.

Jerry Broaddus
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Jerry Broaddus
James Poulos: Obviously little, if anything, would be just peachy. And I'm not advocating a 'retreat to principle'. I'm suggesting that Republicans not hurl themselves into the abyss if the best shot this year isn't enough to beat Obama -- because the Obama that wins might well be mostly hamstrung and spent. (Supreme Court appointments are an important exception.) Admittedly, the economy may be hamstrung and spent, too, and it's hard to watch those years drift past. But the political decision about how to proceed will still need to be made. · 11 hours ago

Everything, from the appointment of judges and justices, to the evisceration of the health care system and the hardening of the expectation of the government as nanny state would be an exception.

This president does not recognize the limitations on his office by the Constitution. He bypasses advice and consent by appointing czars to displace the duties of cabinet posts. He makes recess appointments while the Senate is in daily session. He decides not to enforce laws with which he doesn't agree, and invalidates religious rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

We gain nothing by winning a Congress with Obama still in office.

ShellGamer
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ShellGamer

"But couldn't a second Obama administration instead give the GOP a chance to regroup, recharge, and refine its brand -- without hardwiring another layer of liberal rule into federal governance?"

Why exactly would you expect us to do a better job of regrouping, recharging and refining than we have over the past four years? Nothing succeeds like success, and nothing discourgages like failure.

Dave Carter

James, the answer to the question asked in the title of your article, "Will a second term ruin Obama?" is that yes, it will.  The further response is, he doesn't care.  As Jerry Broaddus remarks above, the man takes it upon himself to decide when the Senate is in recess for purposes of unconstitutional appointments, he decides which laws he will or will not enforce, he has populated his administration with more Czars than Moscow, and provokes one Constitutional crisis after another.  

The only thing that even starts to slow him down now is the 2012 election.  After that, he will not give a fig about what Americans think.  His radical ideology is one that ignores the consent of the governed, and so his wretched fundamental transformation will proceed at full steam.  And America will never be the same.  We have one shot at applying the brakes,...and even then it is not guaranteed that we will succeed.  

Terry
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Terry
Yeah...ok.: I disagree with Rob. I think Goldwater was like the 300 Spartans against the Persians. · 16 hours ago

Yes, and beyond that, blaming the LBJ victory on the Republican's nomination of Barry Goldwater assumes that Nelson Rockefeller would've fared better.  LBJ couldn't have lost to any Republican that year as he was campaigning to complete the mission of the martyred JFK. 

One of the great benefits of the Goldwater nomination is that it gave a stage for Ronald Reagan and "the speech".  (George Romney might have played that spokesman part for Rocky.) 

Comparisons between 1964 and 2012 aren't apt.  Obama is hardly a shoo-in.  Any number of Republicans could beat him-- some of them are actually still running.

Tom Lindholtz
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Tom Lindholtz

I'm sorry, but, clearly, there cannot be any IQ test requirement to serve as a Contributer. That anyone who is even vaguely conservative could look at the results of the past three years and suggest that another term would be anything less than a disaster strikes me as totally unhinged and having taken leave of ones reason. I am more flabbergasted by the suggestion than anything I've ever seen on Ricochet.

whatmeworry
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Sep '11
whatmeworry

Regroup ?!?  We've had 3 years to 'regroup'...and what then would be the defining consensus on why we lost ? Because we need to be more like democratic socialists ?  I pray that is a hypothetical.

The most urgent threat is nationalized healthcare.  As previous posters have said -- this is our last best hope to eradicate a pernicious 'opiate of the masses'.


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