Andrew Klavan · Jul 11, 2011 at 7:30pm

Okay, I'm beginning to feel like that dentist kid on YouTube.  Remember, the boy who was under sedation and kept asking his father, "Is this real life?"  Or wait, maybe I'm like the guy in one of those thrillers where the solution is he's really in an asylum and the whole story has been in his mind.  I mean, I've watched this video five times now, and every time, Obama sounds to me like President Homer Simpson.  He essentially says:  "People say I shouldn't raise taxes and hurt the economy, but don't worry about me so much, I'll only be doing that on non-election years so it won't affect me."  Take a look and tell me, am I hearing this wrong?  Please say yes, okay?

[h/t:  PJ Tatler]

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George Savage

Ah yes, the massive, job-killing tax increases won't kick in until 2013.  So everything will be fine for President Obama's 2012 reelection effort.

What a relief!

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.

Michael Patrick Tracy
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Michael Patrick Tracy

See also, "The Demagogic Style," by Victor Davis Hanson.

Huey Long In Armani, without the "charm." El Suave Teleprompter. Homer Simpson goes to Harvard after being schooled by communists.

Ajax Telamônios
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Ajax Telamônios

I can only guess that he thinks that Recovery Summer is going to come along any day now so that it'll be safe to raise taxes after his second coronation because we'll all just be drowning in GDP growth and begging him to do something about it.

As for me, I'll never miss that tax break for my private jet I'm never going to be able to afford anyway; I might as well not have a job to go not along with it.

Michael Patrick Tracy
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Michael Patrick Tracy

Ajax Telamônios: I can only guess that he thinks that Recovery Summer is going to come along any day now so that it'll be safe to raise taxes after his second coronation because we'll all just be drowning in GDP growth and begging him to do something about it.

As for me, I'll never miss that tax break for my private jet I'm never going to be able to afford anyway; I might as well not have a job to go not along with it. · Jul 11 at 7:37pm

What he said.

BlueAnt
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BlueAnt

I think he was referring to his Administration's belief that things will turn around by 2013, thus making it "safe" to raise taxes without stalling the economy, re-entering a recession/depression, or triggering any other identifiable economic milestones that make bad headlines.

The big laugh to be had is that this is the same Administration that wrongly predicted 8% unemployment, wrongly predicted a V shaped recovery in 2010, wrongly analyzed the stimulus' effects, and has been wrong on just about every metric they've tried to predict.  So his optimistic predictions for an economy 2 years out, and the taxes it will support, should not be relied on to "solve" the debt/deficit issues he is currently failing to grapple with.

The other flaw in Obama's reasoning is so obvious only a law professor could miss it.  If he is now acknowledging that higher taxes hurt the economy, then he shouldn't be in favor of them in any year.

Jon Estle
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Jon Estle

I always cringe a little when I hear Obama say "folks." He seems to use it before he presents a wild characterization of his political opponents, that none of them actually hold. In his mind, its just not possible that someone hears his position and doesn't like it. It can only be that Obama didn't explain it right. Republicans are big meanies, tax the evil corporate jet owners; this is the correct way to think. 

Chris Bogdan
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Chris Bogdan

If you think things are bad now just wait until I've been re-elected and have nothing to fear from voters. I don't even know the meaning of the term "lame duck".

Starve the Beast
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Starve the Beast

Yeah. The trouble with this kind of talk is that promised cuts never - NEVER - materialize, but promised tax hikes always do.

Let's do it the other way around from now on. We'll enact cuts right now, and then when they've been implemented they will "trigger" those tax increases that the Dems want. We've done it the opposite way for too long.

Cas Balicki
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Cas Balicki

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
No escape from reality
Open your eyes, Look up to the skies and see,
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy,
Because I'm easy come, easy go, Little high, little low,

Drew, channeling Freddie?

DocJay
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DocJay

Alas poor Freddie Mercury is decomposing these days and we shall follow suit if this man and his shifting socialist entourage is lifted up again. It would not be so wrong if he was seen as what he really is but an uneducated nation glued to" jersey shore" may well look to this tax and spend master as their best shot at getting what they"deserve". The man however is only the second most dangerous individual in the world and certainly number one will come along...none other than Ben"one trick pony" Bernanke and the arrogance of intellect that surrounds him like flatus in an elevator.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

All that's missing for him is to yell:

"I'm a legitimate businessman!"

Valiuth
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Valiuth

It's like a doctor telling you when your sick that he has medicine to give you. But, if he gives it to you now, it will kill you. So, he will wait for to become healthy, because then it will only make you sick. 

We must all remember though that when the economy is doing well the rich just get richer, and that is the real problem Obama wishes to fix. 

AmishDude
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AmishDude

Fear not, citizen!  For, by day (well, at least starting at 11am), he is the not-so-mild mannered Barack Obama -- stiff, awkward and muddled in the head.  But by night, he goes into his secret closet...deep, deep into the closet...pulls out his state-of-the-art TelePrompTer and becomes...PEAMAN!

With a shout of "Let's get wee wee'd up!" he soars, light as two Boeing VC-25s, to battle the forces of evil.

On this day, a day like any other in the nation's capital, little do the overpaid and underworked denizens of Capital City realize that, above their heads, Peaman and his 500 trusty sidekicks are zooming their way to intercept our hero's deadliest foe, The HedgeTrimmer!

A hedge-fund manager who flies an evil corporate jet equipped with not one but two evil ATMs, the HedgeTrimmer is protected by dozens of henchmen he deviously calls "Taxpaying Employees."

Will this diabolical fiend escape justice?  Can he outrun Peaman's extreme slice?

Tune in next week, when you'll hear our hero say, "Number 1, any of us would be pretty angry; number 2, that the police acted stupidly."

DocJay
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DocJay

Peaman...hmmm....I am just hoping we dont have to eat his [redacted].  I may just have blown all of my 3.58 dollar entry fee with that pun.

Ed.'s Note: DocJay, please don't be gross.

Alas the dangers of adult adhd.  I shall keep my humor attempts in the arena of class.

Edited on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:39pm
AmishDude
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AmishDude

DocJay, you have to walk a fine line here.  A very fine line.

In my experience, your contrition will result in only earning you the word [redacted] in place of the offending word.

Consider the following example from Cee-Lo Green:

"I see you driving 'round town
With the girl i love and i'm like,
[redacted] you!
Oo, oo, ooo
I guess the change in my pocket
Wasn't enough i'm like,
[redacted] you!
And [redacted] her too!"

ParisParamus
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ParisParamus

[hey, why do posts disappear, and re-appear?}

Edited on Jul 11, 2011 at 9:48pm
ParisParamus
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ParisParamus

I have finally mastered spelling demagogic--and just in time!

James Lileks

It's an interesting clip. He's shifting between a scornful description of how some people regard tax increases - those idiots! - and a factual description of his intentions, which are manifestly necessary, and wise.  He's assuming everyone in the room speaks the same tongue,  and knows he is using the opposition's language sarcastically. It's the sort of thing you do among friends, and apparently he regards the press as a group that will display some rote antagonism as their roles require, but shares the same precepts. Or at least can parse his rhetorical double-clutching.

This happens when you're surrounded by people who think like you do. For a fellow who travels around the country, he doesn't get out much. 

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson

But James, his rhetorical skills are unquestionably the best of any president since Reagan!

Well, I'll give him the best of any president this decade.


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