Paul Erickson · July 3, 2012 at 3:27pm

Many Ricoteers were born conservative.  This question is for converts like me.

Today, I was reminded that I used to find "Doonesbury" smart and clever.  Now, I can't get over how stupid and uninformed it truly is. 

http://doonesbury.slate.com/#mutable

What cherished memory of your time BC (before conservatism) have you abandoned? 

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BastiatJunior

"All In the Family" , "Good Times" and the Unitarian Church.

Yeah...ok.
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Yeah...ok.

Kennedy, Kennedy
He's our man.
Nixon belongs in a
garbage can.

EThompson
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EThompson

Today, I was reminded that I used to find "Doonesbury" smart and clever. 

Don't judge yourself in too harsh a light; I also read every Gary Trudeau cartoon strip in college and bought several of his books. After all, we were young and idealistic then and let us not forget he was married to Jane Pauley, America's Sweetheart... I even have a copy of his series ripping my and Jane's sorority to shreds (Kappa Kappa Gamma) in my pledge book!

Edited for an additional postscript, Paul E: You have to admit Zonker Harris was pretty damned funny!

Edited on July 3, 2012 at 2:33am
The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

I just refer to it all as childhood.

Jim  Ixtian
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Jim Ixtian

M*A*S*H, NBC, and the Episcopal Church.

Paul Erickson
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Paul Erickson
Yeah...ok.: Kennedy, Kennedy
He's our man.
Nixon belongs in a
garbage can. · 11 minutes ago

I don't remember that one, but I do remember stomping around the schoolyard chanting "We like Johnson!  We hate Goldwater!"  That would have been - 1st grade?

HeartofAmerica
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HeartofAmerica

My grandma's dining room: a picture of John Kennedy next to a portrait of Jesus Christ on the wall overlooking the table.

My poor grandparents are probably rolling in their graves over my defection.

Edited on July 3, 2012 at 3:06am
Percival
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Percival

Not only were Doonesbury cartoons funny, but so were Woody Allen  movies.  People laughed (out loud!) in the theater.

flownover
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flownover

Did you ever stop to consider the meaning of " Vanilla Fudge " ?

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

Memory of My time BC?

I don't remember anything Before Conception.

Roberto
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Roberto

Bloom County. 

bloomgang2

I still have a soft spot for the ridiculous absurdity of it all.

Mr. Breathed's sketches are entertaining but one must move on.


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Keith Doherty

Wow, so much:-) Doonesbury, yes... Bloom County too. Most of the pop music of the time that made political shots at Reagan & Thatcher. (Billy Bragg? *shudder*)

I remember thinking that Lewis Lapham wrote such brilliant essays for Harper's Magazine. I recently skimmed through one of his anthologies and reread some of those old articles. Ugh. What a hateful windbag. He seems uninterested in making any kind of compelling or persuasive argument; he mostly spews bile.

Edited on July 3, 2012 at 12:09pm
dash
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Jim Ixtian: M*A*S*H, NBC, and the Episcopal Church. · 10 hours ago

M*A*S*H screwed me up for years without my realizing it. Insidious and vile tripe that swayed me, unawares, into beta maleness. I shudder when I think of my teens.

Paul Erickson
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BastiatJunior: "All In the Family" , "Good Times" and the Unitarian Church. · 12 hours ago

Amen to that.  This morning on the train reading Jonah Goldberg's Tyrrany and came to the chapter on "Democracy and Unity."  The Unitarian Universalist Church is a good example.  ("Of course we believe!  We believe in getting along!)

Paul Erickson
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Percival: Not only were Doonesbury cartoons funny, but so were Woody Allen  movies.  People laughed (out loud!) in the theater. · 11 hours ago

Can't share your fond memories of Woody Allen.  His stuff always did and still makes my skin crawl.  

People also laughed out loud at the 3 Stooges.

Paul Erickson
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Keith Doherty: Wow, so much:-) Doonesbury, yes... Bloom County too. Most of the pop music of the time that made political shots at Reagan & Thatcher. (Billy Bragg? *shudder*)

I remember thinking that Lewis Lapham wrote such brilliantessays for Harper's Magazine. I recently skimmed through one of his anthologies and reread some of those old articles. Ugh. What a hateful windbag. He seems uninterested in making any kind of compelling or persuasive argument; he mostly spews bile. · 3 hours ago

Edited 2 hours ago

Bloom County? Not for me. 

I remember thinking that E J Dionne was a balanced columnist!

Paul Erickson
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dash

Jim Ixtian: M*A*S*H, NBC, and the Episcopal Church. · 10 hours ago

M*A*S*H screwed me up for years without my realizing it. Insidious and vile tripe that swayed me, unawares, into beta maleness. I shudder when I think of my teens. · 2 hours ago

Jim and Dash -

Wow, I had not even thought about MASH but you're exactly right.  It was a perfect tool for molding us into the feminist ideal.

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The King Prawn: I just refer to it all as childhood. · 12 hours ago

Dennis Hopper, of drug-addled Hollywood fame, moved from the Left to a conservative political outlook late in life. (He publicly supported GW Bush.) When asked "why" by a befuddled talk show host, who could not fathom someone so cool as Hopper becoming a conservative, Hopper answered, "I grew up."

Songwriter
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dash

Jim Ixtian: M*A*S*H, NBC, and the Episcopal Church. · 10 hours ago

M*A*S*H screwed me up for years without my realizing it. Insidious and vile tripe that swayed me, unawares, into beta maleness. I shudder when I think of my teens. · 2 hours ago

M*A*S*H is evidence of how influential well-crafted comedy can be. The show was nothing short of Leftist propaganda, but it was well-written, well-acted (OK, except for Mike Whats-His-Name, who is wooden as a 2x4), well-directed.

Toward the end of its run it became more preachy and, as a result, less funny.

Conservatives could learn a lot from the Left when it comes to the power of well-produced comedy and drama.

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Thomas Friedman from a decade ago.  I liked his commentary and his book The World is Flat.  I still maintain that he left me.

-E


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