When I saw the headline "Iran censors Ashton's plunging neckline", it didn't seem all that out-of-the-ordinary. I mean, it's Iran, right?

Then I saw the photo of the offensive "plunging neckline", and I laughed so hard my co-workers poked their heads inside my cubicle to see what was so damned funny:

"Plunging Neckline" according to Iran

What a hussy!

Here's the edited photo, as published in an Iranian newspaper:

Edited photo

Yeah, you'd better keep it covered up, you little man-tease!

Source: YNet News

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Stuart Creque
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Dec '10
Stuart Creque

Perhaps the issue is not that Baroness Ashton's decolletage is so very tempting, but that seeing it ruins the fantasy for Iran's fundamentalists about the tempting young flesh that must be lurking under every burqa and niqab and abayya.

Ursula Hennessey

That's pretty great / horrifying.

Pseudodionysius
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Sep '10
Pseudodionysius

Is she handcuffed?

Franco
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Sep '10
Franco

You can tell the guy is trying not to look.

Jerry Broaddus
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Dec '10
Jerry Broaddus
Pseudodionysius: Is she handcuffed? · Jan 26 at 11:08am

Only in his dreams. She's a Sharia boy toy.

flownover
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Aug '10
flownover

So Iran hides her bosom as the world's media hides her marxist heart.

Aaron Miller
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May '10
Aaron Miller

This reminds me of Victorian times, when showing a little ankle or neck was racy.

It does make me wonder, though. Where would you draw the line?

It's interesting that in America a woman can wear a string bikini in public but not strip down to her underwear, which is usually less revealing. In our culture, it has also become acceptable for women to wear clothes which conform to every curve, leaving very little to the imagination.

What social restrictions on clothing are acceptable? To what extext should modesty be enforced by laws?

And what expectations apply to men? If I'm doing heavy physical labor outside, I'll take my shirt off. But doing so in public was considered uncouth in my grandpa's time and area.

Misthiocracy
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Aug '10
Misthiocracy
Aaron Miller: This reminds me of Victorian times, when showing a little ankle or neck was racy.

That's largely a myth. There are plenty of images of Queen Victoria herself that show quite a bit of skin (certainly more skin than Baroness Ashton is showing in the above photo).

  • http://www2.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/images/queenvictoria.jpg
  • http://www.youngqueenvictoria.com/images/siteimages/portrait1.jpg
  • http://www.myartprints.co.uk/kunst/william_essex/portrait_queen_victoria_hi.jpg

Certainly, modesty was fashionable in Victorian times, but it wasn't nearly as fanatical or puritanical as many suggest. It's largely a 20th century invention.

I could go on, but debating Victorian morality isn't really the point of this thread.  ;-)

Aaron Miller
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May '10
Aaron Miller

Misthiocracy

I could go on, but debating Victorian morality isn't really the point of this thread.

Thanks for the correction, anyway. I hate to mislead people.

Conservative Episcopalian
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Sep '10
Conservative Episcopalian

The standard for the modesty of plunging necklines should be the "M&M Test". If one can toss an M&M at the neckline and manage to easily hit the opening offered by the cleaving breasts, then the neckline may be too low. In the case of Ms. Ashton, it appears from the photo that the M&M test would have failed in her case. The real question for the Iranians should be "peanut or plain?"

Kennedy Smith
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May '10
Kennedy Smith

 In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking...

Any excuse to drag my sailor costume out of the closet.

Kennedy Smith
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May '10
Kennedy Smith

 How sad is it when you have to get your titillation from looking at Lady Catherine's plunging neckline?  That's worse than National Geographic.

Dan Holmes
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Sep '10
Dan Holmes

I take it Iranian television won't be broadcasting Giada de Laurentiis from Food Network anytime soon...


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