If Catholics Come Together To Make More Ads Like This, Results May come
Joe Escalante ·
June 9, 2012 at 2:13am
I missed this some (been out since March) how but it's pretty bold.
Watch it in big screen Hi Def.
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Jun '10
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On the same order:
"We Hold These Truths"
http://frpontifex.com/blog/2012/03/07/we-hold-these-truths/
Dec '10
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Sorry, Joe. Not with you on this one.
The most impressive religious event I ever attended was a close friend's wedding, in a catholic church. I talked with the couple and the priest, afterwards, as I was very impressed, but that was quicksilver and that church has never been the same.
My, protestant, churches are much worse, but they do have giant video screens.
There's a tiny wooden church, 13 miles up into the woods beyond me, that I may want to attend, at least once. We'll see.
Maybe you have a wonderful church, but almost all of my experience of churches has had nothing to do with my experience of God.
Humans, and their churches, don't compare to my view of His creation. Attending churches, or watching slick videos with voting messages doesn't seem, to me, to compare with living, and watching His work.
Most of our churches seem to have left us all alone, for many years. Maybe that's a good thing, as our faiths should be personal.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 2:41amJun '12
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Great video, I first saw it a few months ago. I wish we could get our prelates to speak as forcefully.
Nov '11
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Joe, thanks for lifting my heart with this...I recall that Someone once said: "I have come to light a fire on the Earth." Good to see Church leaders *leading*.
Jun '10
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Slightly off topic, but also a hot Catholic topic these days:
If you get the EWTN TV channel:
Apr '11
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So Catholics are now on board with freedom, jobs, taxes, energy, and the economy--good to know. Has anyone told the likes of Father Pfleger.
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Impressive ad. Catholics Called to Witness seems like a great example of what a few committed individuals can do when armed with moral clarity, determination, and a measure of modern technology.
Aug '10
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Thanks Joe, I 'm with you. I'm not a Catholic or even, right now, a member of any protestant church. But the real effect of the mandate is to increase government power and control while undermining religious freedom. Defending religious freedom should be everyone's concern regardless of faith or religious practice. "Test of Fire" isn't bad at all.
Mel Foil,"We Hold These Truths" needs something. I wish it contrasted that priest, beautiful church and music with the activity and joy of, say, a religious freedom rally like the one in New Haven, Ct today. (It was a great rally, by the way.Young families, old people, racial diversity. It was predominantly Catholic but we had plenty of people of other faiths.) Thanks for the info on EWTN theology roundtable.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 8:53amJun '12
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CJRun: Sorry, Joe. Not with you on this one...
... Humans, and their churches, don't compare to my view of His creation. Attending churches, or watching slick videos with voting messages doesn't seem, to me, to compare with living, and watching His work.
Most of our churches seem to have left us all alone, for many years. Maybe that's a good thing, as our faiths should be personal. ยท 6 hours ago
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CJRun: ... The video was not intended to be viewed sacramentally, but inspirationally, it should be judged so. And, like it or not, we are His handiwork, too. Stubborn, selfish, conceited, vain, prideful, rebellious as we may be, yet He chooses to stoop down and meet us where we are: whether standing alone on the north rim of the Grand Canyon, fidgeting on a folding chair of an inner city mission, or anywhere in between the two.
Aug '10
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Mel Foil,
My problem is I don't know the vocabulary used to describe videos. But did you see that Rick Perry video (it now seems like ages ago) in which you saw Rick Perry speaking, and then the camera would show different groups of people across the country as Perry continued to speak? Well, what I'm saying is why not show that priest speaking in the beauty and peace of that church and then have the camera show people at a Religious Freedom rally as the priest continues to speak. Kind of like what Perry did but with the same tone it now has.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 6:22pmFeb '11
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Folks -- Western Chauvinist posted about this video in April and here's her post and the comments.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 2:29pmAug '10
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Hmm...
Did anyone besides me notice that, while the ad told us that only some of the blacksmith's words would stand the test of fire, we never saw evidence that, well, the other words did not stand the test of fire? (The other words didn't melt or anything. For all we know, they simply ended up in another part of the smithy.)
Also, "Your vote will be recorded in eternity"? Really?
Oct '10
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Thanks for the post Joe. Welcome back. It was good to hear you on the podcast.
Aug '10
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You're right, Midget Faded Rattlesnake. That line : "You're vote will affect the future and be recorded in eternity" could leave the viewer wondering if the Catholic church teaches that God forgives repentant people for the thoughtless, selfish choices they make. I completely missed that last night when I was watching the video. Still, now that I'm paying close attention, I'd have to say the line only has me thinking that the small part we play in the history of the world --I hate the way I'm about to word this--" makes a difference" to what others have to face down the road. The past is kind of eternal in that it can't be undone.
Also, Moma Toad, to me the woman coming out of the voting booth doesn't look grim so much as like she's thinking about something. ( Of course, it might have been better to have her look like she's thinking before she goes in.)
Joking aside, the video does a good job of focusing people's attention on the importance of remembering what their priorities should be : the protection of life, marriage and freedom.
Edited on June 10, 2012 at 8:44amSep '11
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The "recorded in eternity" line, while it can be overstated for manipulative purposes, is true; on that day, God & I will have a conversation about my life, and His memory doesn't slip. I will be reminded of my sins and failures, as well as those times when I listened to Him and actually did what He said. Ultimately, the thrust of the ad is to remind us that what we individually do has consequences far beyond the bounds of my little bubble. That's an expression of the truth that God has a plan for each of us, people perhaps only we can reach, but it is up to us to choose to do so & follow Him. Election outcomes come & go, but culture stays & is impacted slowly over time. I am called to celebrate the greatness of the salvation I have (and we all are offered) in Christ, and point others to Him. For all my failings (of which there are many), that's what I choose to do, and this ad is calling us to in the public sphere. When it comes to religious freedom, we really all are Catholics now.
Aug '10
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re: comment # 15
Yes.
Aug '10
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I'm interested in your interpretation of Isaiah 43:25, then:
I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.
It could be consistent with your notion of you and God having a conversation about your life: God doesn't forget until you've had that conversation and you show adequate repentance. But it does sound like, at some point, God decides to forget some people's sins, no?
I'm not big on absolutely literal readings of the Bible, but a lot of people are -- and, more to the point, a lot of people expect conservatives to be literalistic about these things.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 11:04pmAug '10
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More to the point, it might reinforce the stereotype that conservative Catholics are legalistic and unforgiving.
Even the most intransigent atheist knows that Christianity -- Catholicism included -- is supposed to teach that the penitent are forgiven. Where people tend to disagree is on whether actual Christians live up to that teaching.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 11:10pmAug '10
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Midget Faded Rattlesnake
I'm interested in your interpretation of Isaiah 43:25, then:
I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.
In case you're wondering about my interpretation...
Far be it from me to suggest that God's mind, which so utterly transcends ours, is incapable of simultaneously forgetting and remembering something without deceit.
God condescends to our level when He talks to us. His remembering isn't our remembering. His forgetting isn't our forgetting. And even our remembering and forgetting is mysterious: you may desire to remember something for years, yet not be able to till something triggers the memory.
Nonetheless, I have heard more than one sermon on how God literally will not remember our sins once He forgets them -- that God could rack His almighty brain for a trace of them and not find any.
Edited on June 9, 2012 at 11:25pmFeb '12
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Joe,
Thank you very much for this excellent post!