PJ · May 23, 2011 at 4:43pm

He announces in Iowa and kicks it off by calling for getting rid of ethanol subsidies!?

Isn't that what we've all been waiting for? What am I missing?

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Todd
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Willie Beamen

Fantastic. Good for him. 

Pike Bishop
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Pike Bishop

Yay T-Paw, the first to cross the line in the sand.  You have fulfilled my first test.

DrewM and Ace have a quick analysis here.

On to New Hampshire to take on the Dairy Mafia.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

Would he have cut ethanol subsidies if he wasn't running for President? I'm skeptical.

Todd
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Willie Beamen

More good stuff.

“Later this week, I’m going to New York City, to tell Wall Street that if I’m elected, theera of bailouts, handouts, and carve outs will be over,” Pawlenty said. “No more subsidies, no more special treatment. No more Fannie and Freddie, no more TARP, and no more ‘too big to fail.’”

Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

Too bad he didn't think of this while he was still governor of my state!

Like I said, all politicians flip flop...

R0bert Scott
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R0bert Scott

Good for T-Paw!  Get rid of stupid and wasteful agricultural subsidies, Fannie, Freddie, burn it all down!

Paul Mantyla
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Paul Mantyla

I'm impressed with Pawlenty.  Very few politicians have the courage to go to Iowa and oppose ethanol subsidies.  I have new-found respect for him.  Should he became president, he'll have the mandate to work toward phasing out subsidies.

A relevant quote because I can't help myself:  "He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism." (Joseph Heller, Catch-22).

Andrew Barrett
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Andrew Barrett

With Mitch Daniels deciding not to join the race this past weekend, I was hoping that Pawlenty would step up.  His comments on ethanol subsidies in Iowa--during his official campaign kick-off--were fantastic!!!  Let's hope this strong stance isn't an aberration.  I bet many Republicans, like myself, were giving Pawlenty a second look today, and he knocked it out of the park.  Long way to seal the deal, however.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

Umm... Aren't y'all forgetting something?

Not JMR
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Jan-Michael Rives

Isn't this the guy that supported some ridiculous 25% renewable energy "goal?"

No thanks.

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PJ
Aaron Miller: Umm... Aren't y'all forgettingsomething? · May 23 at 3:26pm

So I was missing something.  It's a flip-flop (or is one change just a flip?).   I agree it's less impressive than I originally thought, but better that he's flipping to the right side than staying on the wrong.  Also, if we insist on someone who never held the wrong position in the past, we'll be waiting a long time.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

PJ

if we insist on someone who never held the wrong position in the past, we'll be waiting a long time. 

Agreed. What bothers me is less that Pawlenty supported ethanol than that he didn't voice this supposed change of thinking until entering the national campaign. It strikes me as opportunistic, rather than heartfelt.

Maybe he's genuine. I don't know. But it's cause for doubt... especially when considered alongside his support for cap-and-trade.

Kenneth
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Kenneth

Gee, if he had said this a year before he left the State House and called for repeal of his very own ethanol mandates, I would have been impressed. 

Matthew Gilley
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Matthew Gilley

 I've been waiting for a chance to throw this out there, and now that I actually have a few free minutes I'll do it:  Can we please stop the vertiginous swings between ecstatic puppy love for Candidate X immediately followed by a plunge into utter despair when we discover Candidate X just sunk while trying to walk on water? 

Honestly.  Pawlenty opposed ethanol subsidies in Iowa!!!  All praise unto him!  Oh wait - he's paid homage to climate changers!?!?  Well, let's forget that hypocritcal gasbag.  Hey wait!  That Herman Cain fellow is making some sense!  Huh? What did he say about Israel?  Never mind.  Newt's back!!!  He's going to resurrect the magic of '94!  Oh, yeah - couldn't stand him before, don't think I can this time, either.

Seriously, we look like my dogs running headlong around our backyard, distracted by and breaking off to chase each new squirrel that happens to saunter by.  Let's kick back and enjoy the show a bit while these folks get to work trying to win our votes.  We don't need to make up our minds today.  Relax.

etoiledunord
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etoiledunord

It's only because Pawlenty once pandered to Minnesota corn farmers, and various other interest groups, that he became a Governor in the first place. It's why you know his name. But for his pandering, he'd be anonymously practicing law somewhere in the Twin Cities and saying to himself, "what if?." They all sin.

Kofola
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Kofola

Matthew Gilley: Can we please stop the vertiginous swings between ecstatic puppy love for Candidate X immediately followed by a plunge into utter despair when we discover Candidate X just sunk while trying to walk on water? 

Seriously, we look like my dogs running headlong around our backyard, distracted by and breaking off to chase each new squirrel that happens to saunter by.  Let's kick back and enjoy the show a bit while these folks get to work trying to win our votes.  We don't need to make up our minds today.  Relax. · May 23 at 5:28pm

Well, I think you get this right for half of us. The other half seem to say the same thing qualified with "unless you want to support my guy".

I agree, though, that there's no need to overreact yet. Not to the newer candidates at least. The candidates that have been on the national stage or running for president for the past 4+ years, are obviously much easier to settle our opinions on--as it seems most of us already have in one way or another.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
etoiledunord: It's only because Pawlenty once pandered to Minnesota corn farmers, and various other interest groups, that he became a Governor in the first place. It's why you know his name. But for his pandering, he'd be anonymously practicing law somewhere in the Twin Cities and saying to himself, "what if?." They all sin. · May 23 at 6:30pm

Yeah, and it's only because Ashley Dupre serviced Eliot Spitzer that we know who she is....

katievs
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katievs

Yes.  They all sin.  I believe Sarah Palin supported the notorious Bridge to Nowhere at first.  Reagan signed a pro-abortion bill.

Some compromises are egregious errors in judgment.  Some are temporary concessions to political necessity.

The art is knowing which and when. 

I supported Scott Brown, though he's pro-choice and generally far too liberal for my taste.  I supported him because he was much, much further right than the alternative and he had a real shot at winning.

Each of us will have to do our own weighing of pros and cons.  Personally, I'm feeling "cautiously optimistic" about Pawlenty.  

He's the only one left in the field that doesn't have fatal flaws, and his basic principles and platform seem very, very good.  

I so hope he rises to the occasion!

Edited on May 23, 2011 at 6:56pm

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Jennykins

Finally!  A politician from the Midwest willing to return corn to its God-intended use:  high fructose corn syrup with which to fatten America's youth!

Seriously, though, good for TPaw.  I'm a big, big Mitch Daniels fan, but I don't think he would have been willing to call for an end to ethanol subsidies.  Here in Indiana, corn is King.  Or maybe soybeans are king and corn is queen.  I get that mixed up sometimes...

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

Etoiledunord, if he was willing to compromise his principles (even if only on a few issues) to become Governor, why wouldn't he do so to remain President? What are the odds that such a person would tackle entitlements? We need more than someone who will merely manage our national decline.

And, again, when did Pawlenty "see the light" about ethanol? I'm not willing to take on faith that he changed his mind long before he knew he was running for President.

I'm among the millions of Americans who didn't realize how bad America had gotten until Obama's extremism opened my eyes. If Pawlenty only recently realized he has been a fool about ethanol and global warming, then he should explain that conversion. It's not enough to simply state that he has changed his mind.


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