Albert Arthur · December 12, 2011 at 4:44pm
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"It" being the ability to win in the fourth quarter:

Tebow Time doesn't start until sometime in the fourth. That was the case again Sunday, as the Broncos scored 10 points in the final 2:08 of regulation to tie the Chicago Bears, then won the game in overtime 13-10, on a Matt Prater 51-yard field goal.

Prater kicked a 59-yard field goal with eight seconds left in regulation to send the game into overtime.

I don't even watch football, and I'm on pins and needles every week to find out whether the Broncos can pull it off again.

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katievs
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katievs

double post

Edited on December 12, 2011 at 5:52pm
Charlotte
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Charlotte
katievs: I've especially admired Tom Brady for his self-effacing grace in victory.

Tom Brady...meh.


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karenwtn

As a Bronco fan in Denver, I can tell you that this "Tebow time" has mesmerized this city. No one leaves the stadium early. People stay glued to the set now. During the Miami game I was so disgusted that I left and went to the store. I returned and we had made 15 points and went on to win. It is heart stopping exciting what the team does. I think a large part of it now is that the team believes he can do it so they play their best. All I can say is "I believe, I believe, I believe".

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

tabula rasa:

A theological observation.  I have always operated on the premise that we should thank God for all things (though I believe it can be done as effectively when done silently in one's heart).  . . .He cares far more about the individual soul of each player than the score.  And I really don't believe God arranges specific TDs:  he loves the cornerback as much as the receiver. ·

I am a HUGE Broncos fan but only learning more about Tebow recently. The WSJ had a great essay this week (my review here) that emphasized that Tebow himself doesn't believe God cares about who wins the football game. · 

Good for him.  When, after scoring a TD, players point upward, I've never been clear whether it means "Thank you, Lord, for intervening on my behalf so that I could humiliate the cornerback and score a TD" or "Thank you, Lord, for being blessed to play this great game."  I like the latter, and it sounds like that's where Tebow comes from.

Don't get me wrong, I'm on the Tebow bandwagon.  

Edited on December 12, 2011 at 6:14pm
Albert Arthur
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Albert Arthur

Big Papi always points to the sky when he hits a home run.

Garnetson
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Garnetson

It has been noted many times that in the past when Tiger Woods was at his very best he intimidated the other players.  Generally that meant the other players hitting bad shots and missing putts at crucial moments.  Now, Tim Tebow is no Tiger Woods.  But could the attention now focused on Tebow and his late game heroics be contributing to the errors the other teams are making late in these games?  This question came to mind as I'm currently reading David Brooks' book "The Social Animal" and there are interesting chapters in there about the battle between level 1 subconscious and level 2 conscious.

Albert Arthur
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Albert Arthur

 Interesting point, Garnetson.

Western Chauvinist
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katievs: I'm a fair weather Patriots fan.  When they're on a winning streak, I tune in.  Otherwise not really.  I've especially admired Tom Brady for his self-effacing grace in victory.  But the Tebow phenom is a great American story and I'm going to be a wee bit conflicted on Sunday. · Dec 12 at 8:48am

I asked Mr. Chauvinist last night, "Is Tebow America's new Seabiscuit?"  The underdog who wins and wins and makes people believe it is possible to overcome the hard times we're experiencing?

Tim Tebow may not have been born in a manger, but I believe he truly loves the One who was.  I understand he views football as the means to charitable ends.  

How fun is it to root for a winning team which is lead by a good man? Mr. Chauvinist is exceedingly happy to be a Broncos fan these days.

DocJay
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katievs: I'm a fair weather Patriots fan.  When they're on a winning streak, I tune in.  Otherwise not really.  I've especially admired Tom Brady for his self-effacing grace in victory.  But the Tebow phenom is a great American story and I'm going to be a wee bit conflicted on Sunday. · Dec 12 at 8:48am

I am a die hard Raider fan as well as an NFL fan.  The Broncos are sworn enemies.  With that said I admire the person Tebow is far more than the lousy passer, great leader and clutch performer.   Tebow has made it very hard for me to hate the Broncos but I still do.  I was not conflicted when Tebow beat the Raiders, I was peed off.  But afterword when he knelt and gave thanks to the Lord I told my kids (all of whom are or were football players) that he is a man to be admired for knowing where his strength comes from.

kesbar
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kesbar

Tebow is a class act. 

Is it too late to amend the age requirement for POTUS and get him on the GOP ticket?

Albert Arthur
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Albert Arthur

kesbar: Tebow is a class act. 

Is it too late to amend the age requirement for POTUS and get him on the GOP ticket? · Dec 12 at 10:25am

Give him 15 years of playing football. Then he can retire and run for president.

Give Me Liberty
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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

tabula rasa:

A theological observation.  I have always operated on the premise that we should thank God for all things (though I believe it can be done as effectively when done silently in one's heart).  On the other hand, I have always felt that God does not care who wins college and pro football games.  He cares far more about the individual soul of each player than the score.  And I really don't believe God arranges specific TDs:  he loves the cornerback as much as the receiver. · Dec 12 at 7:55am

I am a HUGE Broncos fan but only learning more about Tebow recently. The WSJ had a great essay this week (my review here) that emphasized that Tebow himself doesn't believe God cares about who wins the football game. · Dec 12 at 8:05am

God doesn't care who wins football games but if Tebow winning football games glorifies Him then He is very pleased.  I wonder if any on-the-fence or outright non-believers have rethought their beliefs because of the Tebow phenomenon.

Pat in Obamaland
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Pat in Obamaland

I have no doubt in my mind it's entirely connected with the weekly voodoo curse he places on his opponents.

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

Did you see where Brady blew up yesterday after throwing an interception? Quite unusual for him. Noticed that his hair is short now, too. Could there be tensions on the home front?

katievs: I'm a fair weather Patriots fan.  When they're on a winning streak, I tune in.  Otherwise not really.  I've especially admired Tom Brady for his self-effacing grace in victory.  But the Tebow phenom is a great American story and I'm going to be a wee bit conflicted on Sunday. · Dec 12 at 8:48am
Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

Question: If Tebow is so great, why must we always wait for the last two minutes to see it? (Disclaimer: a diehard LSU Tigers fan, I'm a perpetual hater of the Gators.)

Pilgrim
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Leslie Watkins: Question: If Tebow is so great, why must we always wait for the last two minutes to see it? (Disclaimer: a diehard LSU Tigers fan, I'm a perpetual hater of the Gators.) · Dec 12 at 12:50pm

The same was said of Roger Staubach (Dallas Cowboys 1969-1979) 23 4Q comebacks, 17 in the last two minutes.  Some thought the whole Cowboy team loafed until the 4th quarter knowing that, when the crunch came. Roger would get it done.  We Dallas fans liked to say "We're down 13 pts at the two minute warning, we have them right where we want them." 

Charley Davis
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Charley Davis

I have absolutely no ill will toward Tim Tebow, but the Broncos would not have won that game if they had been facing their former pro-bowl QB Jay Cutler, now likely done for the Bears season with a broken thumb on his throwing hand.  For the uninitiated, GOD doesn't care about sports, HE hast more important issues to solve universe-wide.  

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins

That's how we Saints fans used to be about the Forty-Niners when Joe Mantana was quarterback, only in reverse: "We're up 24 points at the two-minute warning—we just might win this one!"

Pilgrim

Leslie Watkins: Question: If Tebow is so great, why must we always wait for the last two minutes to see it? (Disclaimer: a diehard LSU Tigers fan, I'm a perpetual hater of the Gators.) · Dec 12 at 12:50pm

The same was said of Roger Staubach (Dallas Cowboys 1969-1979) 23 4Q comebacks, 17 in the last two minutes.  Some thought the whole Cowboy team loafed until the 4th quarter knowing that, when the crunch came. Roger would get it done.  We Dallas fans liked to say "We're down 13 pts at the two minute warning, we have them right where we want them."  · Dec 12 at 1:16pm

Dan Hanson
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Garnetson: It has been noted many times that in the past when Tiger Woods was at his very best he intimidated the other players.  Generally that meant the other players hitting bad shots and missing putts at crucial moments.  Now, Tim Tebow is no Tiger Woods.  But could the attention now focused on Tebow and his late game heroics be contributing to the errors the other teams are making late in these games? 

I came in to make this same point.  Great players intimidate other teams and help put them off their game.  I'm more a hockey fan than football, but Gretzky used to have that ability.  He was just so intimidating when he was on the ice, and especally in the last few minutes of a tied game, that sometimes his opponents would just break down and scramble around and provide an opening - often for someone like Jari Kurri, flying under the radar until Gretzky's perfect pass would land on the tape of his stick at just the right time. 

CJRun
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CJRun

Gator fan here and huge Jags fan (I see ya up there, in Ponte Vedra, we may have to have a Ricotete-a-tete), but ultimately a incline towards, karentwn.  As does Tebow.  Tebow just inspires confidence in tired, normal players that it can be done and they go do it.  He keeps trying, so they keep trying.

The defense and the kicking game make it possible, then he adds the inspiration.


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