How About a Perry/Martinez 2012 Ticket?
Diane Ellis, Ed. ·
Aug 30, 2011 at 10:27am
The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol has marked the end of his eight day Maker's Mark binge/Paul Ryan mourning period with a most fascinating proposition: Perry-Martinez 2012.
...Rick Perry now seems to be the Republican frontrunner. Who might his running mate be? Obvious possibilities are Ryan or Rubio—or Mitch Daniels (a successful Midwestern governor who's not part of the mess in D.C. but who could reassure some voters with his serious federal government experience). But this news story suggests someone else Perry would surely want to consider: New Mexico governor Susana Martinez.
As I say, a fascinating proposition. I think I might be a fan.
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Dec '10
Re: How About a Perry/Martinez 2012 Ticket?
I don't know much about her, but I do know about Marco Rubio. I would love to see him as the running mate. I'm also a little gun-shy about what the Left tried (and in some ways succeeded) to do to Sarah Palin. Any woman who is not a flaming Lib is a whore (and that is one of the nice terms).
Should the GOP hold back from nominating another woman? No, but I think she'd have to be a little crazy to willingly undergo the garbage that would be dumped on her.
Aug '10
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"Last week, the Almighty expressed His displeasure over Paul Ryan's decision not to run for president by sending us an earthquake and a storm".
Great opening line, and a fun video too.
I concur with the Great Adventurer, no point point in tossing her to wolves just yet. Palin and Bachmann are plenty for the time being.
Mar '11
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It's too geographically unbalanced; he'll need to choose someone from the Midwest or Atlantic Seaboard. Tim Pawlenty would be a much better choice. I'd like to see Rubio do a lap as Florida governor before he runs for national office.
May '10
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With both of their proficiencies in hand guns it would be great if the honorable duel would return to politics.
Apr '11
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Illiniguy, I agree regarding the geographical concern and while I have grudgingly embraced the thought, I have to wholeheartedly agree about waiting for Rubio to pay his dues in the Governor's mansion before a run for the Oval Office (or even Veep, for that matter), but couldn't "like" your comment without saying that while "Perry/Pawlenty" has a nice, alliterative ring to it, it's also got a fairly strong "Cool Ranch Doritos/Melba Toast" flavor.
Mar '11
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Hey, don't go dissing the Cool Ranch Dorito! Besides, the best thing to have after eating a hot bowl of chili is a cold glass of milk.
Seriously, after watching all of Senator Rubio's speech at the Reagan Library, it's obvious that he's found the true vein of America. I think he's much more valuable in the next several years leading the conservative contingent in the Senate. He'll be 48 (I think) when the governor of Florida is term limited in 2018. 4 years as governor and he'll be unstoppable. I may not live to see it, but it'd give me some comfort knowing he'd be my kids' and grandkids' President. He'd be wasted as VP in 2012.
Jun '10
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Martinez as a rookie governor has precisely one legislative session under her belt. Prior to that she was a DA from a backwater district. She's not even in the AAA league yet much less ready for the majors. The idea is ridiculous.
Jul '11
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You've got that right - someone with his talent and political skills would be completely overqualified as VP - leave him in a position where he can achieve some victories that he can point to in future runs. I like the idea of him being governor for a while and then making a run for the White House.
About the Martinez proposition, I have to admit that I first thought this post was about former senator Mel Martinez and that everyone had temporarily taken leave of their senses. Now, I know nothing about Susana Martinez, but any governor is certainly worth a look for VP. If she's good on the stump, can handle the press, is not a squish, and can appeal to independents, she would probably rank high on any list. I'm not so concerned about the geographical balance as that's not nearly as important as it used to be (Clinton went against conventional wisdom there and it worked out fine for him). One point in her favor would be if she could help carry New Mexico, which has trended Dem in recent years. Definitely worth closer inspection.
Mar '11
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Cobalt Blue
I'm not so concerned about the geographical balance as that's not nearly as important as it used to be (Clinton went against conventional wisdom there and it worked out fine for him). One point in her favor would be if she could help carry New Mexico, which has trended Dem in recent years. Definitely worth closer inspection. · Aug 30 at 12:59pm
New Mexico's 5 electoral votes is nothing to sneeze at, but this election is going to be won or lost in the Midwest. I think geography will be more important than usual next year.
Oct '10
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God bless him, but I'm not sure there is a prognosticator worse than Bill Kristol? Well, maybe Dick Morris.
Jul '11
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You may be right about that (such political speculation is fun on account of the many perspectives one can employ). My gut tells me that Pawlenty would fail to move the needle much in the Midwest as the VP candidate, maybe not even enough to swing his native Minnesota if Perry has the top spot. But Martinez (I'm going to assume she's a savvy candidate with no obvious competency concerns) may help the GOP make inroads into the Hispanic community, which it desperately needs to do in the near future. She might not tip any states into the GOP column besides NM, but she could help with lots of House and Senate races in a way that Pawlenty probably could not.
Edited on Aug 30, 2011 at 1:44pmApr '11
Re: How About a Perry/Martinez 2012 Ticket?
Reread that, man. Cool Ranch Doritos=Perry/Melba Toast=YouKnowWholenty.
Feb '11
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They'd carry every state from Texas to New Mexico.
Mar '11
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Gen. Victor Ball
Reread that, man. Cool Ranch Doritos=Perry/Melba Toast=YouKnowWholenty. · Aug 30 at 2:01pm
My poor stab at humor.
Sep '10
Re: How About a Perry/Martinez 2012 Ticket?
The states to look at for running mates are:
Pennsylvania with 20 electoral votes
Michigan with 16 electoral votes
Ohio with 18 electroal votes and
Florida with 29 electoral votes.
PA has Tom Ridge who may counteract Perry's authentic conservative credentials for some nervous Independent voters.
MI has John Engler who was a reasonably popular and effective governor
OH has John Kasich who is probably one of the most passionate politicians out there in limiting the size of government
FL has Jeb Bush - another Bush could be a problem - but his credentials on State finances especially on education are impeccable, plus he could help with the hispanic vote.
Jun '10
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Maybe, but we must avoid the temptation to tokenize the VP spot by naming a woman twice in a row. We have too many other worthy number two potentials to reach into a small state for a governor no one has heard of, who will be defined before she gets out of the box. Same with a little known male VP pick. If Martinez were better known, it might be ok.
We have a deeper bench and no need to take a flier.
Mar '11
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Rubio is the right man. He would swing Florida for sure - and probably a fair piece of the hispanic vote. His understanding of America is an inspiration that can energize the country.
Mar '11
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Jeb Bush might be a sleeper candidate. Obama has gone a long way to rehabilitate G.W., being a Bush might not be so bad a label after another year of the Bamster.
Mar '11
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He did predict long before the 2008 election that McCain would pick Sarah Palin for VP.
May '11
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I have posted this before but I think Kevin McCarthy would be an ideal choice because it would allow Perry to allign himself with the house leadership and McCarthy is impressive in his own right and would need little vetting. An inside Washington operator is not a drawback for VP. Rubio has nothing to gain and Martinez doesn't add enough. No one else in the house adds anything to the ticket that would attract independents. We need every conservative vote in the senate we can get. No govenor really expands the balance of the ticket. That leaves McCarthy or someone recently retired fom a previous administation but not Bush's. In other words McCarthy.