...with one small adjustment.  Speaking in the United Arab Emirates, our increasingly irrelevant Secretary of State drew a parallel between mass murderer Jared Lee Loughher and Islamic terrorists.  From The Hill:

"We have extremists in my country. A wonderful, incredibly brave young woman Congress member, Congresswoman Giffords, was just shot by an extremist in our country," she said, according to Reuters. "We have the same kinds of problems. So rather than standing off from each other, we should work to try to prevent the extremists anywhere from being able to commit violence."

It's obscene, and repellent, and frankly stupid, to call what happened in Tuscon the acts of an "extremist," unless, of course, you think Charles Whitman, John Wayne Gacy, Jack the Ripper, and the Manson Family were primarily motivated by a desire for political change.

Jared Lee Loughner is, I think it's safe to say, a paranoid schizophrenic with a tenuous grip on reality -- a violently irrational young man who needed to be put on anti-psychotic medication, and whose pathetic, disturbed ramblings called for medical intervention, not political analysis.

And in that respect, of course, he really is like an Islamic fundamentalist.  Like him, they too are violent, irrational, paranoid, half-educated psychopaths.  Like him, they too need medication.  If in her remarks in the UAE, Hillary Clinton merely replaced the word "extremist" with "delusional, paranoid murderers," she'd be totally, utterly correct.

You can't say that, though.  Wouldn't be respectful.

And that's typical of the Left.  They can recognize patterns and shapes and connections, but they don't know how to use the right word.  Like pre-verbal infants.

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MLH

"We have extremists in my country. A wonderful, incredibly brave young woman Congress member, Congresswoman Giffords, was just shot by an extremist in our country," 

When I heard her say the above, on NPR, my first thought was that Secretary Clinton should be made to resign.

R.J. Moeller
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R.J. Moeller

Moral clarity on matters of evil people has never been the Left's strong point.  If they hated terrorists like they hate carbon emissions (or Right-wing talk show hosts), we'd live in a safer world.  It's sad, really. 

Diane Ellis, Ed.

You're nice to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt, Rob.  If you asked her what she thinks about the Tea Party, I'm pretty sure she'd also call them extremists (in fact, reading between the lines, I wonder if she was insinuating that Loughner is a right-winger).  So here you'd have the Secretary of State equating a delusional mass murderer with her political opponents, and her political opponents with Islamist terrorists.

In the best case scenario, the lady is clumsy with her words.  And in the worse case scenario, she's contributing to the repulsive leftist narrative that we've heard ad nauseam in the past few days.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

"And that's typical of the Left.  They can recognize patterns and shapes and connections....., " but they can't connect the dots. 

G.A. Dean
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G.A. Dean

As if thing are not ghastly enough...

Our leaders, those self-appointed elites, cannot see the distinction between what happened in Tuscon and what happened in Pakistan on the 4th, and have just demonstrated that to the world. Clearly they understand neither event.

And let's follow the logic...Secretary Clinton is under the mis-conception that Jared Lee Loughner is connected with the Tea Party. Even if we forgive her that mistake, let's consider that she has conflated the Tea Party and Al Qaeda.

The more interesting question is not, "Is Loughner an extremist?" but "what sort of Extremist does she think he is?"

Diane Ellis, Ed.

G.A. Dean:

And let's follow the logic...Secretary Clinton is under the mis-conception that Jared Lee Loughner is connected with the Tea Party. Even if we forgive her that mistake, let's consider that she has conflated the Tea Party and Al Qaeda.

The more interesting question is not, "Is Loughner an extremist?" but "what sort of Extremist does she think he is?" · Jan 11 at 4:16pm

Ah, you articulated my thought much better than I did.  This is exactly why I find her remarks so appalling. 

Good Berean
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Good Berean

Hillary's Liberal logic:

All Tea Partiers are extremists.

All extremists are mentally ill.

Jared Loughner is mentally ill.

Jared Lougher is a mentally ill Tea Party extremist.

Edited on Jan 11, 2011 at 4:29pm
Erik Larsen
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Erik Larsen

 Is she there to arrange an airlift of Thorazine to Pakistan?

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

Rob Long: Jared Lee Loughner is, I think it's safe to say, a paranoid schizophrenic with a tenuous grip on reality -- a violently irrational young man who needed to be put on anti-psychotic medication, and whose pathetic, disturbed ramblings called for medical intervention, not political analysis.

And in that respect, of course, he really is like an Islamic fundamentalist.  Like him, they too are violent, irrational, paranoid, half-educated psychopaths.

The difference is that Jared Loughner has a brain disease that makes him organically incapable of seeing the world as it is, whereas Islamic fundamentalists have brains in good working order that have been programmed with such faulty ideas for so long that they are conditioned to be incapable of seeing the world as it is. Medication might help Loughner's brain start to work properly;  medication will do nothing for an Islamicist's outlook, values or ideas.

We tend to excuse the person with the diseased brain as being controlled by the disease, whereas we expect the person with the conditioned brain to be responsible for understanding his conditioning is faulty and wrong and incompatible with morality.

bereket kelile
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bereket kelile

I was wondering, in the wake of this pathetic post-tragedy dialogue, what happened after Reagan was shot, that is, the media response. They must have been in a moral quandary trying to pin the blame of an assassination attempt on a right-wing President on a right-winger. Does anybody recall what the reaction was and how it compares to today? I was a twinkle in my dad's eye at the time. 

flownover
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flownover

Watching this slovenly dressed SecState fall onto her jet in Yemen after she gave them a big (60mill) bump in annual foreign aid in exchange (for what ?) made me realize the paucity of choices within the democrat party. Increasingly irrelevant for sure.

Edited on Jan 11, 2011 at 4:58pm
flownover
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flownover

This woman probably whispered in her husband's ear ( well probably screamed at him from across a room) to blame OKC on Rush. What did you expect ?

Mike LaRoche
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Mike LaRoche
R.J. Moeller: Moral clarity on matters of evil people has never been the Left's strong point.  If they hated terrorists like they hate carbon emissions (or Right-wing talk show hosts), we'd live in a safer world.  It's sad, really.  · Jan 11 at 4:09pm

Ann Coulter said much the same thing several years ago, noting that if Islamists hated America with as much energy as liberals do, the former would have indoor plumbing by now.

Joseph Stanko
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Joseph Stanko
Diane Ellis, Ed.: You're nice to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt, Rob.  If you asked her what she thinks about the Tea Party, I'm pretty sure she'd also call them extremists · Jan 11 at 4:11pm

In an unguarded moment she might call them "violent, irrational, paranoid, half-educated psychopaths" as well.

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

Diane Ellis, Ed.: So here you'd have the Secretary of State equating a delusional mass murderer with her political opponents, and her political opponents with Islamist terrorists.

In the best case scenario, the lady is clumsy with her words.  And in the worse case scenario, she's contributing to the repulsive leftist narrative that we've heard ad nauseam in the past few days. · Jan 11 at 4:11pm

It's the worst case scenario, I'm afraid.

What a craven pol.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

This is good. Hillary and Obama are so very different, yet so very similar. Conservatives need reminders that lunacy has overtaken more than one branch of the Democratic Party.

There is no discourse between the Left and Right anymore. Notions of compromise are empty when one side consistently demonizes the other. While Democrats continue such displays, I don't want to hear the word "bipartisan" from Republicans. Before there can be genuine discussion, there must be basic civility.

It doesn't end with speech. A person willing to talk about you as some thing undeserving of personal consideration will treat you the same way when it comes to legislation. If civility is not regained in public discourse, freedom will die with it.

Charles Mark
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Charles Mark

I've been really busy the last few days so I haven't kept fully up to date though I'm doing my best.I can report that as I predicted at the weekend the Irish equivalent of your MSM has gone in hard (is that violent language?) with the "Palin Connection" with the Governer, a particular hate-figure, mentioned in the Irish Times Editorial on Monday. Fox and the Tea Party are also in the mix.The links have toned down today but are still there. The problem is that most Irish news consumers receive their US news through a pro-Democratic prism and do not see or hear the other side of the story, which to my mind appears to be gathering credibility with most new revelations.I make these points not to whinge about media bias in general but to point out that there must be a causal link between selective coverage of US politics in Europe and reflexive anti Americanism, at least when the GOP is in control, indeed a more provable link than anything out of Arizona.The bottom line is that the US media has faults but you have vigorous debates on serious issues. We have almost total dreary unanimity.

Jeremias Heidefelder
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Jeremias Heidefelder

Curious how Hillary described Giffords as "brave."  As best as I can tell, the only "bravery" Dems really respect is when a Repub doesn't vote with the rest of the GOP, or defects from the party, which happens to be what Giffords did.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm slighting her plight.  I do hope she recovers.  But I do not like the Dems' attempts to make her a political martyr.

Sister
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Sister
bereket kelile: I was wondering, in the wake of this pathetic post-tragedy dialogue, what happened after Reagan was shot, that is, the media response. They must have been in a moral quandary trying to pin the blame of an assassination attempt on a right-wing President on a right-winger. Does anybody recall what the reaction was and how it compares to today? I was a twinkle in my dad's eye at the time.  · Jan 11 at 4:41pm

I worked at a Legal Services office at the time - the lone conservative. The lawyers cheered.

George Savage
bereket kelile: I was wondering, in the wake of this pathetic post-tragedy dialogue, what happened after Reagan was shot, that is, the media response. They must have been in a moral quandary trying to pin the blame of an assassination attempt on a right-wing President on a right-winger. Does anybody recall what the reaction was and how it compares to today? I was a twinkle in my dad's eye at the time.  · Jan 11 at 4:41pm

Bereket, no right wing angle on the Reagan shooting, apart from the NRA.  You see, it was the gun that nearly killed Reagan, poor Hinckley was just along for the ride. 


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