Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Grinnell College beat Faith Baptist Bible College 179-104 last night. Jack Taylor scored an astounding 138 points on 108 shots. From ESPN:
"There was a point during the second half where I hit a number of threes in a row -- maybe seven or eight -- I felt like anything I threw up was going in," Taylor said. "I've been in the zone before but I've never taken so many shots."
The previous record was 113 points, scored against Hillsdale College in 1954. That was the last year that anyone scored in the triple digits.
By the end of the night, Taylor was 52-for-108 (27-for-71 from the 3-point line) and he'd established a new collegiate record.
So here's my question. I don't really follow basketball enough to weigh in here, but is this a particularly impressive average? The point total is amazing. But who gets 108 shots in a game?
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Mar '11
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dittoheadadt
If in 3 years the school will have a pretty good team and be on the national radar, how is it that the coach leaving for greener pastures is "ditching" them? He'sthe one who put them on the map! They should be thankful, not resentful. He's moving up the ladder in a meritocracy. That isconservatism, not worthy of scorn. · in 1 minute
Well, you're right but I didn't mean it quite in that way. Only that, working backwards, a coach at this level is looking to improve his lot - to do that he needs a good team - to do that he needs recruits - to do that he needs a hook. In this case, he let his star shooter shoot like crazy.
In other words, this is a highly contrived, gimmicky, almost Globetrotterish kind of basketball. But, as a fan, it is more fun to pretend that this is just a natural, freak show of greatness during the course of a normal, mano y mano basketball game.
Jul '11
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I think the other team should have stopped him and if they could not, and clearly they could not, then it's no big deal. I never cared if someone ran up the score on me. I've balled against dudes that were far better than I and you just do your best. If they talk a bunch of smack you put the elbows to them until they shut up. If they play fair and decimate you then so be it. No whining when it's done, just a handshake.
Sep '10
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Check out the box score.
Some guy on the losing team named David Larson scored 70 points without making a single 3-pointer, and just two free throws. That's a whole lotta lay-ups, not much defense!
Jul '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
I was playing in Colstrip Montana, just outside the Lame Deer reservation with a bunch of Indian guys. It was run and gun like I'd never seen even in inner city ball. The time between possession and shot was about two or three seconds on a full court. I'm surprised an Indian kid doesn't hold the record for some state college.
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
So what were you doing there? I have friends in Colstrip ...
Jun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
"But he didn't shoot 48% from the floor. He shot 68% from the floor, not including the treys. 68% from inside the arc is terrific, as is 37% from outside the arc...even against a bad team. Heck, even in the morning shootaround!"
You're right: 25 for 37 (68%) is good shooting (my bad), but 27 for 71 from 19 feet is not good shooting. The three point shot is ridiculously easy for a competent college shooter.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/3-points/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
This is it. After all, how often are we all taking about Grinnell?
By the way, my favorite party of the story: Taylor didn't have a single assist.
May '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
The D-III tournament is much more difficult to get in to and requires teams to run up scores for the national recognition (there is no "Bracketology" programs that dissect the statistics weekly to give the selection committee clarity). Grinnell is designed for that very purpose and have been playing like this for years.
If the kid had 58 points at halftime, like he did, I don't see the problem with continuing with your hot hand. A 5'10 kid from a small Iowa liberal arts college scored 138 points in a basketball game; why turn this into a discussion about the death of sportsmanship in America? It should just be a fun little anomaly in this annus horribilis.
Jul '11
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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
So what were you doing there? I have friends in Colstrip ... · 49 minutes ago
I was doing a family practice rotation for IHS in 1991.
Sep '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
When Wilt shot his 100pt game, it was no accident. It was planned in advance and coordinated with his teammates.
Nov '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
The 3-point line is not 19 feet in college. It has never been 19 feet. It used to be 19'9". But it was increased to 20'9" a few years ago. Shooting 38% from 21 feet is still pretty good. Just having the stamina to run the floor that much and put up 108 shots is something of a feat. No need to diminish the accomplishment just because you find it dubious on sportsmanship grounds.
Mar '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Troy Senik, Ed.
...how often are we all taking about Grinnell?
You mean on Ricochet or in life?
Mar '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Faith Baptist Bible College didn't have a prayer.
Oct '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
TomC: "But he didn't shoot 48% from the floor. He shot 68% from the floor, not including the treys. 68% from inside the arc is terrific, as is 37% from outside the arc...even against a bad team. Heck, even in the morning shootaround!"
You're right: 25 for 37 (68%) isgood shooting (my bad), but 27 for 71 from 19 feet isnot good shooting. The three point shot is ridiculously easy for a competent college shooter.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/3-points/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct · 6 hours ago
That's assuming all his treys were from just outside the arc. Maybe they were, and maybe all his deuces were layups. If that's the case, all analysis changes. But until we know that, we must rely on the numbers we know, and we know he was somewhere behind the arc when he hit 37% and somewhere inside the arc when he hit 68%. If he had few free-throws, I'm guessing he didn't spend much time in the paint, which argues against easy layups and for traditional field goals.
Jun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
"The 3-point line is not 19 feet in college. It has never been 19 feet. It used to be 19'9". But it was increased to 20'9" a few years ago." Right you are. My bad again.
"Shooting 38% from 21 feet is still pretty good." My point exactly: pretty good; nothing extraordinary.
What was extraordinary was his taking 108 shots, 2.7 every minute, nearly one shot every 20 seconds.
Edited on November 22, 2012 at 12:47pmJun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Some interesting facts concerning the epic struggle between Grinnell and Faith Baptist Bible.
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/tag/_/name/jack-taylor
Edited on November 22, 2012 at 1:10pm