Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Grinnell College beat Faith Baptist Bible College 179-104 last night. Jack Taylor scored an astounding 138 points on 108 shots. From ESPN:
"There was a point during the second half where I hit a number of threes in a row -- maybe seven or eight -- I felt like anything I threw up was going in," Taylor said. "I've been in the zone before but I've never taken so many shots."
The previous record was 113 points, scored against Hillsdale College in 1954. That was the last year that anyone scored in the triple digits.
By the end of the night, Taylor was 52-for-108 (27-for-71 from the 3-point line) and he'd established a new collegiate record.
So here's my question. I don't really follow basketball enough to weigh in here, but is this a particularly impressive average? The point total is amazing. But who gets 108 shots in a game?
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Apr '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Well top NBA players have better shooting averages, though none of them really get the chance to shoot for the basket 108 times. In fact most basket ball games I think average something like 70-100 shots a game for both teams not including free throws. I know Wilt Chamberlain did have a game where he personally scored over 100 points. So yah, it is impressive, but also very freaky like an 11 hour tennis match that stretches across 3 days.
Edited on November 21, 2012 at 10:11amMay '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
That's a decent 48.1% shooting percentage.
Unselfish is an understatement. For one player to attempt 108 shots in a 40 minute basketball game is an average of one shot every 22 seconds. And consider that every time he scores, the other team gets the ball for probably 10 seconds of more. And the other team scored 104 points, so defense must have taken the night off entirely.
Or maybe they played with 8 foot rims.
Jun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
The score of the game was 179-104; Grinnell edged its opponent by a mere 75 points. What a tremendous display of sportsmanship to leave your star player in the game, subjecting a vastly inferior team to a humiliating blowout so he can keep shooting until he sets a meaningless scoring record, or until his arm falls off, whichever comes first.
Taylor made 52 shots and missed 56 shots. That’s less than 50% shooting, hardly an earth-shattering performance. In a 40-minute basketball game, he missed 1.4 shots a MINUTE.
Taylor told the Associated Press, “It felt like anything I tossed up was going in,” a bizarre comment from a guy who missed more shots than he made.
Records such as these usually come at the expense of terrible teams, so in my opinion they’re shameful rather than praiseworthy.
Hey, maybe Grinnell should schedule a game against a girls’ high school basketball team, so Taylor can score 238 points.
Edited on November 21, 2012 at 12:41pmNov '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
A 50% shooting average is usually considered very good, especially when almost 70% of your shots are from the 3 point line. A 40% average from the 3 point line is excellent and he shot just under that. It is an impressive shooting performance. Whether it is sportsmanlike to shoot do much and run up the score is another matter.
Jul '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Small colleges often run up scores and leave star players in to take obscene numbers of shots. How else will they get national recognition and maybe a shot at a combine invite? I would say 138 points without many free throws is pretty impressive.
Jun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Shooting 48% from the floor, and 38% from three-point range against a team you beat by 75 points, a team that allowed 179 points, is excellent? Okay.
Jul '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Nobody shoots very well in college. Give'em a break let the kid have his record.
Apr '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Grinnell plays a unique style based on mathematical models for optimizing scoring and the effect it has on the flow of the game. It is based also on the obvious, as Hall of Fame coach Pete Carrill put it: "The three-point line is too close to the goal."As it's early in the year and Grinnell has few games before starting to play conference foes who have adapted to their style, they do and should focus on playing their style all game. At this time of the year it isn't about just winning but about teaching and learning: oh, and Grinnell is very very very very very very very very LIBERAL, bluer than many other "elite" liberal arts colleges of equivalent academic reputation. These kids are cultivating the appropriate attitude for liberal electioneering in the 21st century: if you ain't running up the score you ain't playin' hard.
Mar '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
The star player, the guy who'll lead the team to victory, is the guy who gets 108 shots a game.
What was not mentioned was the number of assists going to him. If it was a high number, it was because he could get open and when he was open, he knew what to do with the ball.
If it was a low number of assists, he had the ball and knew what to do with it.
Jun '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
"Nobody shoots very well in college." Oh really?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/field-goals
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/team/_/stat/3-points/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct
There are whole College TEAMS that shoot well, never mind individual players. Many college players, given the opportunity to take 108 shots against a markedly inferior opponent that apparently plays no defense, would score 138 points and more.
So, yes, it was an impressive number of points. It just wasn't particularly impressive basketball.
May '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
At 5'10" Mr. Taylor is having his 15-minutes of basketball fame. The NBA will not be calling. And everything else you need to know about the level of hoops played in Mr. Taylor's league can be seen in the team photo:
There hasn't been that white of a team since the 1957 Boston Celtics.
Sep '12
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
In a related story, Allen Iverson has applied for admission to Grinnell College.
Jun '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Mollie buried the lede... Hillsdale was the previous "record" holder.
Oct '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Less than 50% from the field generally isn't something to write home about, but 37% from behind the arc is, and the 3-point shot attempts pulled down his overall average, so the overall <50% mark is a bit deceiving. His non-treys average of 68% (25-for-37) is very good. Astoundingly so.
I'd give his shooting performance an A+. And if someone is shooting that well, I don't fault him on ball-hoggishness. He should be the one shooting the ball.
Edited on November 21, 2012 at 3:45pmMar '11
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
Sorry conservatives... sportsmanship is DEY-ahd.
17 year old shooters have now heard of Grinnell. In 2015 this school will have a pretty good team and the coach ditch them for greener pastures.
If you want to enjoy sports just pretend this isn't true.
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
But I made sure to mention it! Didn't even mention whatever school beat them (Rio Grande? Is that a real school?)
Oct '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
But he didn't shoot 48% from the floor. He shot 68% from the floor, not including the treys. 68% from inside the arc is terrific, as is 37% from outside the arc...even against a bad team. Heck, even in the morning shootaround!
Oct '10
Re: Grinnell's Jack Taylor Scores 138 Points to Shatter Record
I don't fault the kid on "sportsmanship." That's the coach's responsibility. The kid was put on the floor to score, not as window-dressing. It would've been insubordination on his part not to follow the coach's instruction.
Let's not forget the other team scored over 100 points, so it's not exactly like they were playing a Girl Scout troop. They're big boys, too, and can (or should) learn how to take a drubbing like big boys.
Oct '10
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Casey: Sorry conservatives... sportsmanship isDEY-ahd.
17 year old shooters have now heard of Grinnell. In 2015 this school will have a pretty good team and the coach ditch them for greener pastures.
If you want to enjoy sports just pretend this isn't true. · 10 minutes ago
If in 3 years the school will have a pretty good team and be on the national radar, how is it that the coach leaving for greener pastures is "ditching" them? He's the one who put them on the map! They should be thankful, not resentful. He's moving up the ladder in a meritocracy. That is conservatism, not worthy of scorn.
Sep '12
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I do fault the coach and the player. They both have no idea what sportsmanship means. This sets an incredibly bad example for kids coming up in junior high and high school.