Now that mainstream media lefties have done everything in their power to tie Sarah Palin to the Tucson rampage, they are working their attacks on Glenn Beck.

On the Chris Matthews show last night, Media Matters founder David Brock said that Beck is responsible for three thwarted assassination attempts

01matthews

First:

He burned Nancy Pelosi in effigy on his set….some weeks later someone tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi’s house. That guy’s mother went on television and said he gets all his ideas from Fox News.

 Second:

Do you know about Senator Patty Murray and the death threat she got? Okay, it’s recorded. The guy says after the health care vote that you got a target on your back and I can accomplish what I want to accomplish with one bullet….he was slowly drawn into Glenn Beck’s world.

 Third:

This liberal foundation in San Francisco was targeted by a gun-man Byron Williams in June. The shooter…says Glenn Beck is his school teacher on television. 

Even Chris Matthews looked skeptical. But political commentator Ron Reagan, who also appeared on the Chris Matthews Show last night, was not. Reagan says what Brock implies: that Beck was also responsible for Tucson:  

You have people like Glenn Beck who repeatedly and constantly refer to political opponents on the left as traitors, treasonists, Marxists, fascists, Nazi’s...You can see that as entertainment but some people like Mr. Loughner are not going to see it as entertainment, they’re going to take it seriously...The only thing unsurprising about this whole thing is that it wasn't a surprise. We all expected something awful like this was going to happen, and it did. 

You can watch the clip here

  • Comment Filters
Contributor Comments
Member Comments
Comment Popularity

Comments :

Paul A. Rahe

If you tell a lie often enough, Dr. Goebbels argued, people will believe it.

~Paules
Joined
Jun '10
~Paules
Paul A. Rahe: If you tell a lie often enough, Dr. Goebbels argued, people will believe it. · Jan 13 at 6:58am

Those who believe the "narrative" have been inoculated against truth and logic.  Those who know better aren't going to believe it no matter how many times it's repeated.  Declining viewership and falling trust in the so-called legacy media seems to indicate that most Americans are on to the scam.  Matthews is preaching to the choir. 


Joined
Aug '10
Mark Woodworth

Do they think that the Beatles killed Sharon Tate?

Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.

Here's an update I just came across. According to this report, Beck and Palin have been e-mailing each other about the shooting. Here is what Beck wrote to Palin:

Sarah, as you know, peace is always the answer. I know you are feeling the same heat, if not much more on this. I want you to know you have my support. But please look into protection for your family. An attempt on you could bring the republic down," Beck wrote. "There are nutjobs on all sides...terror is terror. I don't care if it is for Allah or your party. 

According to Beck, Palin responded, writing, 

I have violence. I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence. Thanks for all you do to send the message of truth and love and God as the answer.

etoiledunord
Joined
Jun '10
etoiledunord

I worry about Chris Matthews. I think he needs a full psychiatric evaluation, before he starts worrying night and day about grammar and currency.

Robert E. Lee
Joined
Jun '10
Robert E. Lee

The vitriol Beck spews could encourage some to violence.  It could also encourage some to orgasmic bliss.  After all, there are about 310 million Americans and there will always be one who...whatever.  I'll not say Beck's hate speech is responsible, I say the guy who pulled the trigger is responsible. 

What bothers me is not the constant accusations and counter accusations that the other side is using the incident in Tucson for political gain, but that the accusations are true.  Things seem to have gone so far beyond rational discourse that it has taken on the appearance of a holy war. 

I suspect that capturing the moral high ground here will not be a result of finger pointing.  I don't have an answer, not even an inkling, but surely, with all the brain power associated with Ricochet, there is an intelligent solution to the problem of civilized discourse with the other side.

Stuart Creque
Joined
Dec '10
Stuart Creque

"Now that mainstream media lefties have done everything in their power to tie Sarah Palin to the Tucson rampage" Emily, if you believe this, then how can you dismiss Palin's video address as "unnecessary"? Are we to assume that if a group of people engage in a concerted campaign to denounce you as an accomplice to murder or an architect of a terrorist attack against a Federal official, you would think it petty and self-serving to offer any response to their charges?


Joined
Sep '10
liberal jim

The left, which is primarily responsible for the production of the trash that permeates music, video-games, and movies  that serve little purpose but to entertain, would argue that they either don’t harm or harm but are entitled to 1st amendment protection.   They argue that Beck, Palin, etc., who engage in political discourse that is vital to the functioning of democracy harm but are not entitled to this protection.  One is forced to conclude that Beck, Palin, etc. are endowed with superhuman capacity to persuade and that entertainment is more important than political discourse.

Midget Faded Rattlesnake
Joined
Aug '10
Midget Faded Rattlesnake

Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed. : Reagan says what Brock implies: that Beck was also responsible for Tucson:  

You have people like Glenn Beck who repeatedly and constantly refer to political opponents on the left as traitors, treasonists, Marxists, fascists, Nazi’s...

Um... not to be a grammar Nazi or anything, but Nazi's what?

flownover
Joined
Aug '10
flownover

Ron Reagan has to be the most poorly named ex-dancer in the world.

show Tim's comment (#11)
Tim
Joined
Jun '10
Tim
flownover: Ron Reagan has to be the most poorly named ex-dancer in the world. · Jan 13 at 10:57am

That was funny!

CoolHand
Joined
Dec '10
CoolHand
Robert E. Lee: The vitriol Beck spews could encourage some to violence.  It could also encourage some to orgasmic bliss.  After all, there are about 310 million Americans and there will always be one who...whatever.  I'll not say Beck's hate speech is responsible, I say the guy who pulled the trigger is responsible. . .

Do you even watch the guy's show?  'Cause if you do, you've got a pretty drastically different definition of vitriol than I do.

I don't listen to his radio show, but I DVR his show on Fox, and I have yet to see anything even approaching the level of whatever it is you call the things Mathews and Olberman and Maddow do.

A lot of the time, I fast forward through it, because it's stuff I've already read somewhere else, but every once in a while, he covers something I'd missed.  I've never seen him make a false statement, nor have I ever seen him burn anyone in effigy.  That charge is very likely fabricated from whole cloth.

Beck goes out of his way to tell people that violence is NOT the answer, over and over.

I'd also like to point out that by the actual definition of Fascism (putative private ownership of capital but with governmental direction of its use), we are quickly approaching it.  When the government "buys" a business using money taken from the people who already own it, and then direct its reorganization, we're getting pretty close.

Pointing that out does not mean I'm calling Obama a Nazi, but it does mean that I am acknowledging a fact on the ground that a lot of people want to ignore.

The definition of fascism doesn't change just because you don't want to believe that it might be happening in your country.  And even if it is, that doesn't mean that Obama is going to start trying to exterminate Jews next week.  It just means that we are sliding into a command economy and all the crumminess that entails.

We can stop the slide, and we don't even need bullets or sticks to do it.

Edited on Jan 13, 2011 at 12:55pm
Paul DeRocco
Joined
Aug '10
Paul DeRocco
He burned Nancy Pelosi in effigy on his set….some weeks later someone tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi’s house. That guy’s mother went on television and said he gets all his ideas from Fox News.

The only references to burning Nancy Pelosi in effigy that Google could cough up were to Randall Terry who supposedly called for others to do it, and to some Tea Party organizer in VA who said he would but then didn't go through with it.

Is burning someone in effigy worse than hanging someone in effigy? I personally saw a stuffed Donald Rumsfeld hanged in a Code Pink demonstration a few years ago. Apparently, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were the targets of this sort of protest fairly often during their tenure. Obama has suffered this treatment at least once.

But so what?


Joined
Nov '10
Charles Lavergne

Every time Ron Reagan opens his mouth, his father rolls over in his grave.


Would you like to comment on this Conversation?

Become a Member for $3.67 a month.

Join the Conversation
Already a member? Sign In
Loading
Welcome Visitor

Already a Member?
Please Sign In

Become a Member to enjoy the full benefits of Ricochet:

Join Ricochet today!

Already a Member? Sign In