Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Whiskey Sam ·
Dec 25, 2011 at 7:42pm
Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry have failed to garner enough signatures to make it onto the ballot for the Virginia primary. Can any of our legal experts tell us if there are loopholes where they could get around this, or does this spell a major problem for both campaigns? For those of us in VA, is there any point in voting in a primary essentially between Romney and Paul? Lastly, does this bring us any closer to the possibility of a brokered convention?
Edit: Evidently Bachmann, Huntsman, and Santorum did not qualify either.
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Sep '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
So yes, Gingrich is incompetent and only half-heartedly in the race. Bet he's got a good book deal in the works, though.
All along I've wondered about this motivation after it being revealed as one of Cain's main motivations.
Apr '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
This is not correct, according to all I have read. Candidates are advised to get 15,000 signatures.And, they did not go on to other business; they were apparently scrambling desperately up to the last minute to get their signatures.
Jul '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Romney procured the assistance of Virginia Lt. Gov. Bolling in meeting the requirement. Bolling is the fellow who cut a deal to endorse McDonnell for Virginia governor in exchange for a McDonnell endorsement next cycle (no consecutive gubernatorial terms allowed in Virginia). (The mindset in the Virginia GOP establishment is such that Ken Cuccinelli, our brilliant Attorney General, had to defend throwing his hat in the ring for governor as "disloyal to his governor's deal." Ron Paul, of course, has a very enthusiastic volunteer base.
Gingrich appears to have failed to procure competent legal advice in his pursuit of the ballot. Earlier in the week he loudly announce he had his signatures. After the news, his campaign very loudly announced a write-in campaign. Virginia does not allow write-in votes in primaries.
It will be interesting to see if candidates trusted establishment Virginia GOP in their pursuit of the ballot, but any vaguely knowledgeable campaign manager could have avoided this regardless.
Me? In this pairing I'm voting Ron Paul. ObomneyCare kills.
Nov '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Ok. So this means the whole notion of a contest between Gingrich and Romney is all bunk. It's obviously gonna be Romney. None of the other candidates (other than Ron Paul) have their stuff together enough to even get on ballots.
Mar '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Exactly.
Aug '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
The GOP "establishment" really doesn't need to do much to torpedo Gingrich and Perry - they're doing a pretty good job of it themselves.
In Newt's defense this whole thing was a book tour until a few weeks ago. It's hard to throw together an organization in such a short time.
As for Perry, well, you can reach your own conclusions about his competency...
Oct '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
I thought you said Newt didn't get all the signatures in on time...
Jul '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
QuickerBrownFox
I thought you said Newt didn't get all the signatures in on time... · Dec 25 at 9:36pm
It's turning into madlibs where you can plug and play your preferred candidates into the phony and moonbat blanks.
Dec '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Why should a candidate have to submit 10,000 signatures to appear on the ballot?
Simple: Democrats, with the aid of unions, ACORN and the permanent leftist apparatus can collect 10,000 ballots with ease. For Republicans, the task requires money and a ground game.
May '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Good riddance. Newt is a dirtbag. The Woodward piece in WashPo is reminder of how Newt will stop at nothing to feed his ego and alienate friends and foes alike. He's the political equivalent of a "mean girl."
Oct '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Whiskey Sam
QuickerBrownFox
I thought you said Newt didn't get all the signatures in on time... · Dec 25 at 9:36pm
It's turning into madlibs where you can plug and play your preferred candidates into the phony and moonbat blanks.
The truth, but then golf is just hitting a ball into a hole, isn't it?
Real life pro-tip: stay away from politics when playing madlibs with liberal relatives, or you really will get, well, mad Libs.
Mar '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
I'd vote for Ron Paul in that match-up, too. For all his profound faults, at least he is serious about cutting the size of government.
Mar '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Xennady:
Good luck with that. Something like 70% of Republicans dislike Romney, and I'll bet a big chunk will come to the same conclusion I did: This is a trick perpetrated by the Romney-hearting establishment. It reminds of the time Obama won an election by getting one of his opponents tossed off the ballot, which is a Chicago-style tactic if there ever was one.
Actually 70% don't dislike Romney; they prefer someone else. He always shows up as the first or second on whether the voters "like" him and often is the second choice of those who prefer someone else.
Apr '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Just wanted to highlight the 70% dislike fallacy for those who deny it is ever said.
Edited: But Richard got in there before I did.
Instead I'll respond to this:
Nobody's Perfect: Why should a candidate have to submit 10,000 signatures to appear on the ballot?
Simple: Democrats, with the aid of unions, ACORN and the permanent leftist apparatus can collect 10,000 ballots with ease. For Republicans, the task requires money and a ground game. · Dec 25 at 10:17pm
It is terribly unfair on candidates who lack volunteer support in the South. Like Gingrich and Perry, right?
Edited on Dec 26, 2011 at 7:58amSep '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
If so many candidates who are on the national stage fail to qualify, Virginia is doing something wrong. Do they want to give VA voters a full range (or at least a medium range) of options so they will have a legitimate say in the outcome?
The Virginia primary is now a waste of time for everyone and will settle nothing for Virginia and nothing for the country. Good job VA GOP!.
Edited on Dec 26, 2011 at 8:56amOct '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Ok, I read the Hot Air piece, and I agree there's no excuse for this kind of incompetence in a campaign for dogcatcher, let alone the presidency. But if this post at Ballot Access News is correct, then there's a facet to this that's being overlooked.
Short version if you don't want to follow the link: this is the first year since the 10K signature requirement that VA has required signature verification.
Can any knowledgeable Ricochetier verify this?
Jan '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Exactly what constitutes the 'Republican Establishment' when a former Republican Speaker of the House and an 11 year governor of Texas are outside of it?
This establishment / anti-establishment discussion gets us nowhere.
Aug '10
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
We have a very serious election and seemingly very unserious candidates. It's frustrating that this is what the GOP has to offer.
Feb '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Well gosh. I figured it was rather obvious that what I meant when I said 70% of Republicans don't like Romney is that he isn't their first choice for president.
It's perfectly fine for Richard Young and yourself to elaborate, but it seemed a waste of my word ration for me to do so in my original comment.
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/26/va-gop-changed-ballot-access-rules-last-month/
Oh. From the link it seems the GOP decided to change their rules last month.
Clever huh? Now just who would benefit from that, anyway? Why- I bet Mittens would benefit! Which I bet was the whole reason why this just happened to be done now.
I appreciate that Fat Dave and wmartin both tried to talk some sense into me above, but I'm just that suspicious of the GOP establishment.
Sorry Klaatu, but I've run out of words to elaborate on that last.
Apr '11
Re: Gingrich, Perry Fail To Qualify For VA Primary Ballot
Xennady
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/26/va-gop-changed-ballot-access-rules-last-month/
Oh. From the link it seems the GOP decided to change their rules last month.
Clever huh? Now just who would benefit from that, anyway? Why- I bet Mittens would benefit! Which I bet was the whole reason why this just happened to be done now.
. · Dec 26 at 11:33am
That article link you provided clearly explains in the final paragraph why this "just happened to be done now." It's not a pro-mitt conspiracy.
Serious campaigns have someone competent who monitors ballot access rules and stays on top of all this stuff. Newt and Perry, apparently, are not running serious campaigns. By the same token, it's not Romney's fault that he is competent and they aren't.