For Those Who Think SSM Is A "Distraction" Or A Minor Issue...
I beg you to take a look at what's going on in Massachusetts and ask yourself honestly whether you think this would be a good development nationwide.
Here's one item among many: [emphasis in the original]
In 2006 the Parkers and Wirthlins filed a federal Civil Rights lawsuit to force the schools to notify parents and allow them to opt-out their elementary-school children when homosexual-related subjects were taught. The federal judges dismissed the case. The judges ruled that because same-sex marriage is legal in Massachusetts, the school actually had a duty to normalize homosexual relationships to children, and that schools have no obligation to notify parents or let them opt-out their children! Acceptance of homosexuality had become a matter of good citizenship!
Think about that: Because same-sex marriage is “legal”, a federal judge has ruled that the schools now have a duty to portray homosexual relationships as normal to children, despite what parents think or believe!
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Dec '10
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Yep. I still think it is a distraction, a minor issue.
Jul '11
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Time to switch states. In our increasingly polarized country I would just leave. It appears the salesman had his foot in the door and the problem with militant gays is that they are not looking for just being tolerated but to be 100% embraced in all of their belief systems. This will backfire on them. The gays I know just do not care about this stuff and I am curious what percentage of gays are activists. Too many it seems.
Dec '10
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That's quite a rogues' gallery. I think maybe only people with young children could see this coming. I've always thought it was about coercion of conscience. At it's heart, SSM is the product of the Left's temptation to tyranny.
So, we've decided to sacrifice parents' rights on the altar of "marriage equality." Do you suppose it could start a new parents' rights movement?
May '10
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You remind me of those who say that only a small percentage of Muslims want Sharia law. The thing is, once it becomes law, the small percentage of "enforcers" have the power to intimidate the rest into submission.
Mar '11
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Home schooling has been the solution for millions of people who cannot abide what schools "teach".
Jan '11
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Smoking is legal. Normalize that.
Jun '10
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Makes me glad I live in Utah. Perhaps we're a bit old-fashioned, but I don't see that becoming part of the public school curriculum in the Beehive State any time soon.
It is so utterly offensive that parents can't opt their children out of something they find morally objectionable.
Also, try to keep it quiet, but Rob and Robin Wirthlin, who are among the plaintiffs in that case, are [shudder] Mormons.
Edited on May 14, 2012 at 8:47pmJul '11
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katievs
You remind me of those who say that only a small percentage of Muslims want Sharia law. The thing is, once it becomes law, the small percentage of "enforcers" have the power to intimidate the rest into submission. · 22 minutes ago
So do non sharia folks leave a country where there is sharia? I think they voted with their feet but of course the muslims that want sharia then move in that country and demand it. I think your analogy seems pretty good here and has made me think of how we should handle other's belief systems being forced on us.
What should a gay person who is not an activist do? Serious question.
I pulled my elementary school kids from sex ed when they had it specifically because I considered myself better at teaching them about such items. God's expectations and my desire for abstinence was at the heart of my talk.
Jun '10
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tabula rasa: Makes me glad I live in Utah. Perhaps we're a bit old-fashioned, but I don't see that becoming part of the public school curriculum in the Beehive State any time soon.
It is so utterly offensive that parents can't opt their children out of something they find morally objectionable.
Also, try to keep it quiet, but Rob and Robin Wirthlin, who are among the plaintiffs in that case, are [shudder] Mormons.
On some TV show, they were showing the interior of a Catholic cathedral in Salt Lake City. It was beautiful. It was big too. I may join you in Utah. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I could fit in. :)
May '10
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DocJay
What should a gay person who is not an activist do? Serious question.
I think what we should all do is resist activists' demands that we change society to suit their agenda.
May '10
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But homeschooling (I'm all in favor of it) doesn't resolve the basic injustice of public schools and public dollars being used to foist an alien set of norms and values on the public.
May '10
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If Obama gets his way, all this is coming to Utah too.
"First they came for Massachusetts, but I'm not from there, so I did nothing...."
May '10
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You really think it's a minor issue that courts and public schools are foisting an alien morality on an unwilling public?
Aug '10
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I have no doubt that once same sex marriage is legalized churches such as mine will be forced to perform gay marriages or will face being ostracized and persecuted by the government/society.
There is no end to the mischief that judges can create as demonstrated by this article.
Dec '10
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katievs
You really think it's a minor issue that courts and public schools are foisting an alien morality on an unwilling public? · 2 minutes ago
Society at large foists all sorts of alien morality. Materialism for one. Why is this one such a big deal?
Jun '10
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Foxman
katievs
You really think it's a minor issue that courts and public schools are foisting an alien morality on an unwilling public? · 2 minutes ago
Society at large foists all sorts of alien morality. Materialism for one. Why is this one such a big deal? · 5 minutes ago
Not everything is the foundation of human civilization. Marriage is.
Aug '11
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Foxman,
"Society at large foists all sorts of alien morality. Materialism for one. Why is this one such a big deal?"
Last I checked in speaking to my freshmen college students, public schools were not presenting materialism as a moral good. Quite the contrary. They are presenting any form of free markets as, by definition, theft.
I don't know what or who "society" is, but Katiev is talking about what publicly funded public schools are foisting on our children and part of that is the requirement for those children to reject the values of their parents and/or keep secrets from their parents. Public school mind-control is not restricted to matters like normalizing homosexual marriage or even comprehensive sex education. It extends to a rejection of many values which have traditionally been associated with religion, free markets, and Constitutionally limited governments.
Jul '11
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I'm a fan of states handling this Katievs. Do you favor federal intervention or just letting states run their own business. If you favor the feds here then it what capacity?
Mass is a liberal hell hole of course and those who live there and who feel otherwise should fight or move.
Nov '11
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And so government once again makes our society more divisive. The more power governments have, the more "services" they provide, the more it pits citizens against one another about who has control over those services.
May '10
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This is one of many issues that makes me doubt that the States can remain United for much longer. I care about the freedoms of die-hard liberals, but I'm no longer sure that what we gain by sharing a government with them is worth the sacrifices. They certainly don't care about our freedoms or beliefs anymore.
We are no longer one culture. A nation is, first and foremost, a culture; a people — not a government. How long can two nations so different share one government?