Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Judith Levy, Ed. ·
March 27, 2011 at 1:11pm
Beware the Ides of May.
This link will take you to a Facebook page that has been set up to encourage a third intifada. It encourages Muslims everywhere -- not just Palestinians -- to converge on Israel on May 15. It does not explicitly state what they should do when they get here, but the logo and the use of the term "intifada" are not encouraging.
Last time I checked, the page had been "liked" 328,587 times.
When you click on the link, you'll see a "Report Page" button on the lower left. I encourage you, if you are so inclined, to report the page as containing hate speech.
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Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Sickening. I reported it.
May '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Lovely. Just lovely. We can take heart, however, that Facebook events are not ever actually attended. The commitment involved in hitting Like is pretty low.
It was cute how they claimed that "all Muslims will boycott Facebook" if the page is blocked. Yeah right, pal. It's like this guy is the Muslim Lorax.
Do you know of an Israeli solidarity FB page? A lot of us could probably muster the energy to click the Like button on that.
May '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
I reported it too. But I also linked to it with the comment:
"Because the thing the Middle East needs is more racism and violence. Because racism has been such a winning strategy for Palestinians so far."
Jun '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Is not the idea of limiting speech anti conservative? Anti constitutional? If it is "hate speech" and it does call out the haters into the public eye is that a bad thing? The more these morons expose themselves the better if you ask me.
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Carver, I take your point and confess to being split right down the middle. I'm all for free speech, but I'm also very frightened at what could actually happen here on May 15 if Muslims across the region are mobilized to descend on us. This is one of those times when I feel the ridiculously tiny borders of this place closing in on me a bit here.
Jun '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
I presume that the border is where they would all stop or be stopped should this actually occur. I am truly sorry that your part of the world is so stressful. It all seems so unnecessary. "Intifada" - as if pure disembodied stupidity is an active force like the wind. But still the sooner they realize they are being stupid or in the throes of the stupid tsunami the better and suppressing speech is not the way to accomplish that.
Please see the member feed for an explanation of my new pic – stupidity – ahem…
Aug '10
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I was able to like a page dedicated to seeking the removal of the offending one.
Dec '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
I'd be optimistic that very few Muslims will actually gather to march on Israel on May 15 -- because Muslims talk much more about supporting the "Palestinian cause" than can be moved to do anything about it.
Of course, the regimes now facing internal mobilizations demanding their own overthrow would be extremely happy to redirect that rage into a May 15 march on Israel. If the Saudis announce a program to pay for the plane ticket for anyone wanting to participate in that May 15 event, then it becomes a major threat.
Dec '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Robert Dammers: I reported it too. But I also linked to it with the comment:
"Because the thing the Middle East needs is more racism and violence. Because racism has been such a winning strategy for Palestinians so far." · Mar 27 at 7:12am
Robert, the Palestinian Authority still carries on its books a law from the era of the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank that decrees the death penalty for any West Bank Arab who sells his land to a Jew. Meanwhile, one-sixth of Israel's citizens are Arab.
And yet the world believes that ISRAEL is the "apartheid state" in this equation.
I doubt if you will be able to convince the operators of Facebook or anyone in the mainstream media of the truth of the assertion that the Palestinian call for a third Intifada is racist.
May '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Judith, I'm sorry this is terrorizing you and yours. I reported the page because it is in fact hateful speech that does not belong on a privately owned website like FB.
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Limiting speech? Who's limiting it? Facebook is a private site with a Code of Conduct--just as we have here. This violates Facebook's Code of Conduct. Put stuff like this on Ricochet and we'll limit your speech so fast it will make your head spin. Say it in my home and I'll throw you out. I'm not the government. Neither is Facebook. A world of difference.
I don't want governments telling me what I can and can't say, but I want people and companies to set standards of decency.
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Take his point? Split down the middle? Hola! Should we give this point of view equal time on Ricochet, too, in the interests of free speech? Why on earth should anyone be obliged to host this? Facebook's right to free speech gives them the right to keep content to which they object off their site. These guys want to set up their own social networking site, they can go right ahead. But generally you need a society more advanced than the one that produces this to produce a Facebook.
Jun '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
I reported the page, but I don't know if I did it right. I have a face book page but ignore it, so I'm not sure I accomplished what I set out to do. Hope that helps.
Edited on March 27, 2011 at 7:44pmJun '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
I have a stupid question. When reporting the page, it asks if it is hate speech against a religious group or a race/ethnicity. What is the better choice? I've always considered it to be both, but Facebook forces me to make a choice. It probably doesn't matter, but I'd be curious what other people think.
Jun '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Point taken Claire. But, I don't facebook (I was last in line for mobile phones too) so I don't know about their code. I agree that freedom of speech can bring one to, or past, the point of "fighting words". In which case a punch in the nose is appropriate. Or in this case being tossed out. However, I still think ridicule is more powerful than censorship. Could not someone establish a satirical "mock 3rd intifada" page? What if that page got millions of "likes"?
Here is a satirical site you might enjoy. Just the guys for the mock intifada page if you ask me.
And from that site a piece that makes both of our points : )
Edited on March 27, 2011 at 8:42pmDec '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Facebook is removing individual comments but it has determined that the page itself hasn't yet crossed beyond their Code of Conduct.
The page is centered around the following message, composed by the administrator, "The neighboring country will start a march to Palestine on the 15th of May. After that, all the Muslim countries will soon march, [and] Palestine will be liberated." A translation of the Arabic text was provided by the SITE website, which tracks online jihadi activity.
Since creating the page, a number of posts have been left on it by fans that carry both implicit and explicit violent content, SITE has found. These include, "Prepare: Death comes to you, o raider of this abode."
The page's administrators posted a quotation of a Hadith (Islamic tradition) that is popular with radical groups, which reads, "The hour [of redemption] does not come until the Muslim fight the Jews and even the stones and trees say, 'O Muslim, a Jew is behind me, so kill him.'"
Other posts have made reference to "paradise" - a term often used in jihadi Islamist circles to promote acts of terrorism.
"Paradise beckons you to tell everyone about 5/15," read one post.
May '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
A good counterweight with 200,000+ likes (which won't buy you a grande latte, but is nice). United With Israel.
Edited on March 27, 2011 at 10:32pmJul '10
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
So add Facebook to the list of Western institutions that bows to intimidation from the umma. It's just the latest nail in the coffin of their reputation.
Re: Facebook Page Set Up to Promote Third Intifada
Just got stopped for the day and saw your post, Judith. Of course I reported it as well,.. but the mind numbing stupidity of the page surpasses all understanding. The most dangerous thing one can be is a friend of the United States during the Obama years. I maintain that his studied weakness and indecisiveness is giving encouragement to our enemies and Israel's. The ripple effects are likely to persist for some time.
May '10
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Stuart Creque
Robert, the Palestinian Authority still carries on its books a law from the era of the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank that decrees the death penalty for any West Bank Arab who sells his land to a Jew. Meanwhile, one-sixth of Israel's citizens are Arab.
And yet the world believes that ISRAEL is the "apartheid state" in this equation.
I doubt if you will be able to convince the operators of Facebook or anyone in the mainstream media of the truth of the assertion that the Palestinian call for a third Intifada is racist. · Mar 27 at 10:02am
I'm aware of all those things. And having been born and brought up in England, irony tends to be a default mode. Nonetheless, I am convinced that the only way to change the narrative is to introduce another narrative. We commonly speak as if the greatest problem in the middle east is that Jews are alive in Israel. Though meant to indicate how awful things are, it doesn't hit the root.
The root cause of violence in Israel and suffering among Palestinians is Arab racism.
Keep repeating it. Delenda est Cartago.