Claire Berlinski, Ed. · Nov 17, 2011 at 12:31pm
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Keith Preston
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Keith Preston

Turkey looking pretty sane right now, eh?

Elena
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I'm, like, all up-Twinkles with that.

Joseph Eagar
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Keith Preston: Turkey looking pretty sane right now, eh? · Nov 17 at 12:38pm

I doubt it.  I must admit, my first reaction is "aww how cute!  student hippy types protesting!"  It is really hard to take these people seriously at times.

Edited on Nov 17, 2011 at 12:46pm
billy
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Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this?

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 Do these kids even know what they're saying at any time? Is he expressing solidarity with a nutbar who shot at the White House or for the WH itself? At my most suspicious, I think the occupiers are deliberately sowing confusion, and while we sit scratching our heads in front of the TV or computer they'll sneak into our bathrooms and loot our medicine cabinets. Wait- that's it, isn't it? Gotta go

Wylee Coyote
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Wylee Coyote

It's the perfect distillation of the #Occupy movement:  it might be seditious, if it were actually coherent.

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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this? · Nov 17 at 12:50pm

I was a kid, but yeah... I remember it feeling very unsettled.  Disordered.  

ParisParamus
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#OWTF

Illiniguy
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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this? · Nov 17 at 12:50pm

This OWS thing is a function of the 24 hour news cycle. The stakes are higher now, but the 60's and 70's were far more violent and crazy.

Daniel Perez
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I´d love to comment... but can someone translate this into plain & simple english? His sharp dialogue is a little too articulate for me to understand.

Roberto
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That has to be a parody. I didn't believe it when I first viewed the clip and I'm just as sceptical now. Even these loons at OWS could not be crazy enough to be expressing support for someone attempting to assassinate the President.

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David Williamson
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Roberto: . Even these loons at OWS could not be crazy enough to be expressing support for someone attempting to assassinate the President.

Yes, they can!

Still feel this is an American tradition, Claire? You may not recognize the place when you come and visit.

J.Voss
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I live here in San Diego and can lamentably confirm that this is being reported on our local stations here.  It appears this is not only real but a point of 'pride' for these loons.

Roberto: That has to be a parody. I didn't believe it when I first viewed the clip and I'm just as sceptical now. Even these loons at OWS could not be crazy enough to be expressing support for someone attempting to assassinate the President. · Nov 17 at 1:28pm

Edited on Nov 17 at 01:28 pm

Keith Preston
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Billy,

I'm probably the wrong one to ask.  I was the square peg who worked as a freshlman year volunteer in the Nixon Headquarters in Madison Wisconsin in 1972.  We had all our posters ripped down almost as soon as I stapled them up, plastic bags of urine and feces were thrown at our doors and windows, and CREEP HQ felt so bad for us that Tricia's husband Ed Cox was flown out to thank us for our support because they KNEW it was like being an Israeli at a Muslim Brotherhood convention.

I think the biggest issue with this bunch that concerns me is the ignorance.  Many of these people have NO true real world information in their skulls.  No difficult work experiences, no learning due to an honest academically challenging educational experience.  Probably some video games, Skyping, and they can text really fast!  :)

Many of the college-level protesters in the 60s-70s were well read, but had malice for "the system."  Remember, at the same age as some of these kids, even Thomas Sowell was a marxist.  (The 70s protests strangely died when the draft ended...hmmm)  THESE folks...just empty vessels.  Amazing.

Daniel Perez
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By the way, is it just me or does anyone else notice the similarities to Mike Judge´s 2006 film Idiocracy?

At first, I found the movie quite funny and amusing.. Now it seems prophetic.

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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this? · Nov 17 at 12:50pm

I was in college during the late 60's and early 70's.  Yes, the rhetoric was just as scattered across the spectrum as #OWS's is today.  I am positive my parents were just as confused as we are now trying to decipher the goings on.

Then, we chose to hear the things we wanted to hear and ignored what seemed to us as crazier.  Each person had his own sliding scale of crazy.  The current crop probably does the same thing.  

Now, as then, reporters pick the most extreme viewpoints they can find to put before the public.  It doesn't help but it does boost circulation.

Then, anti-American and anti-Nixon interests poured $$ in aid to the more radical groups and enabled them to get their message out.  That led to violence.  Let's hope the union backed OWS doesn't go the same direction.

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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this?

Yes, but the country could afford aberrant behavior in 'those days'. 

billy
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Keith Preston:

I think the biggest issue with this bunch that concerns me is the ignorance.  Many of these people have NO true real world information in their skulls.  No difficult work experiences, no learning due to an honest academically challenging educational experience.  Probably some video games, Skyping, and they can text really fast!  :)

Many of the college-level protesters in the 60s-70s were well read, but had malice for "the system."  Remember, at the same age as some of these kids, even Thomas Sowell was a marxist.  (The 70s protests strangely died when the draft ended...hmmm)  THESE folks...just empty vessels.  Amazing. · Nov 17 at 1:37pm

That sums it up pretty nicely about the OWS crowd, but I would add that there is a real sense of complacency among the rest of the population that makes the current era so troubling.

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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this?

Yes, but the country could afford aberrant behavior in 'those days'.  · Nov 17 at 2:05pm

I retract this statement to a certain extent, as I recall the terrorist activities of two Obama pals- William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn of the Weather Underground- who were responsible for multiple bombings of federal buildings and police stations. (Behavior, no civil society can afford).

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billy: Keith Preston

It really does feel like the country is going seriously off the rails, doesn't it? I've never felt  this before about the United States. For older readers: were the 60's or 70's like this? · Nov 17 at 12:50pm

This OWS thing is a function of the 24 hour news cycle. The stakes are higher now, but the 60's and 70's were far more violent and crazy. · Nov 17 at 1:13pm

I agree the 60s and 70s tended to be more violent.  But there seemed to be a central organizing principle, at least at the beginning:  opposition to the Vietnam War.  I still have no idea what this Occupy thing is about.  "Get out of Vietnam" is, whether you agreed or not, comprehensible.  Is there anyone out there who in 20 words or less describe the fundamental purpose of the movement?  


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