Enter Gloria Allred
Jack Dunphy ·
November 7, 2011 at 8:32pm
There is no public carnival so vulgar that it cannot be made more so by the participation of Gloria Allred. She has now, in representing a woman claiming to be another “victim,” thrust herself into the midst of the Herman Cain sexual harassment opera. The only surprise is that it took so long. Another reason to turn off the television.
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Aug '10
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Heads I win; tails you lose. Hi-tech indeed.
Aug '10
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Cain's stock on InTrade has collapsed.
Oct '10
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I've watched the clip of the woman making the accusation twice now, and despite Gloria Allred being just inches away as she testifies, the woman is convincing. If this isn't countered quickly and convincingly, Misthiocracy is right, Cain is done. None of the accusations against him rise to the level of those made against Clinton, but Republicans won't fall in line the way the left did for a genuinely flawed candidate.
Nov '10
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I recall reading, two or three weeks ago, a comment by Bill Clinton to the effect that there was something about one of the Republican candidates which would send a shock through the race for the nomination. I wish that I could be more specific. I think of this when I see the Cain campaign chasing its tail trying to find the source of the story.
May '10
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Whether the accusations are true or not, this is clearly an organized media hit job.
They slip out these charges, but just enough to frame them in deliberately vague terms under the guise of settlements ('shameful cover-up!') and the usual victimization/fear meme. This effort lays the seed ('look at all of these anonymous women!') while also roping in the other target: conservatives, who come to Cain's defense due to the weak evidence. After letting it simmer, just when the story is about to drift away, boom, they bring out the smoking gun. The one brave woman who is willing to stand up for all of those previously mentioned, motivated by the sudden public liberation allowed to her!
Next: The 'conservatives as hypocrites' whitewash throughout the media, due to their defense of Cain up to this point, along with the insistence on how the situation represents an innate sexism still prevalent in American.
The coup de grace? After Cain has been successfully drubbed from contention, the talk suddenly turns to how this is representative of racism in America and how Cain would have been forgiven had he been a white man.
Sad.
Edited on November 8, 2011 at 1:24amDec '10
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Just to be accurate, Bialek said that it was at dinner that Cain asked her why she was there.
Dec '10
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DrewInWisconsin:
But it should be noted that she was not in any way his employee. She was just a woman that Herman Cain might have hit on in a disgusting fashion. If he did it, that's sleazy, but it's not lawsuit material.
If the story is true, he did more than hit on her. He groped her and tried to force her head down. Isn't that sexual assault?
Aug '11
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Freeven
DrewInWisconsin:
But it should be noted that she was not in any way his employee. She was just a woman that Herman Cain might have hit on in a disgusting fashion. If he did it, that's sleazy, but it's not lawsuit material.
If the story is true, he did more than hit on her. He groped her and tried to force her head down. Isn't that sexual assault?
I honestly don't know anymore. I'm tempted to say yes, but having seen lesser actions called "assault" and more serious actions dismissed as No Big Deal, I feel like nothing makes sense at all.
Aug '11
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It was the line from her boyfriend "Herman seems to think highly of you; why don't you contact him . . ." that jumped out at me as being somewhat contrived. At that point, her previous interaction with Cain (if her story is to be believed) was just a couple lunches at a convention a month prior where she was sitting at a table near Herman Cain and he spoke with her. She makes it sound like an important point that he spoke with her at dinner, but who doesn't speak with table-mates at these sorts of functions?
But as I said above, parts of her story sound convincing, parts don't. And then there's the presence of Gloria Allred . . .
Jul '10
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Sorry for the mistakes - was doing two other things while listening to her account. First, it was DC, and second, he asked her why she was there at dinner. Still, there was the phone call and then drinks...
Jun '11
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Gloria and Sharon crave attention. I saw the show and it was a "Watch Me" press conference by Gloria. Good God. Gloria is the take-down artist to take down Republicans. Next is whoever is up in the polls.
So if Cain is guilty of hitting on Sharon, so what? Are we supposed to be shocked the keynote speaker hit on a big boobed blonde looking for a job?
I still like Cain.
Edited on November 8, 2011 at 3:17amNov '10
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One thing that doesn't add up to me. The woman does not look terribly upset, though by her story she ought to be torn up, given her original admiration for the man and her conservative leanings. But the part that doesn't add up is that Allred takes all questions while she stands calmly by. Why? If they wanted credibility for the story, and the woman doesn't fall apart on stage while relating the salacious details, why keep her from answering questions? It would give more credibility than treating her as a sock-pupped. The live testimony was devastating; the Q&A far less so. In fact, I reversed my impression quite a bit during that part.
Dec '10
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The scenario seems so banal as to be fiction written by a witless demogogue. The women appears to be in her 50s so she was in her 40s when it happened. Protestations like "But I have a boy friend" make her sound more like 19 then 40. The actions alledged of Cain make him sound more like a 20 year old out on a cheap date rather then a 45 year old workaholic chief exec of a good sized American firm. Whatever happened you can bet Allred wrote the script and rehersed this actress.
It is my duty since I'm a good deal older then some of you to give you a warning. It is perfectly possible that she initiated the sex not him. When she realized later on that he was not going to come across with the job she decided to take revenge. It still wouldn't be pretty for Herman. He shouldn't have gone near her. On the other hand, sympathy for a 40 year old women who has a talent for compromising situations and can turn a law ment to protect workers into a new form of blackmail is a bit much.
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I have it on good authority that Professors Yoo and Epstein (he of PBS fame) will be discussing Miss Allred and her contributions to the legal profession on tomorrow's edition of Law Talk. Should be interesting.
Dec '10
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Blue Yeti, Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to tune in.
Dec '10
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The accuser's background and character don't bear close examination. This doesn't mean she is lying but it does give rise to questions.
Dec '10
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Double post. Sorry.
Edited on November 8, 2011 at 5:32amMar '11
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For the purposes of argument, let's stipulate that everything Bialek says is true. In that scenario,
A. Cain made a pass,
B. Bialek said stop,
C. Cain stopped,
D. End of story - nothing else matters.
If that is enough to destroy a person's character and future, the human race will perish from the earth.
Feb '11
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Bailek's story is too perfect. The details and delivery too polished. Her sudden emergence too perfectly timed for maximum personal advantage. Her choice of lawyer is too suspect. Her act is a political one, so she must be assumed to be a player and therefore has to prove herself credible. What is the condition of her personal finances? What are all her political affiliations, past and present? (The Tea Party claim can easily be a front.) What is her professional and legal history? Does she have a track record of being a "problem child'? So far, this is he said/she said. So her track record and situation matters.
Herman Cain is behaving like someone who is innocent. It was never on his radar and he's trying to figure out what's going on in the camera glare. The stumblling and bumbling is that of an innocent person, especially a fighter who prizes his honor. A not-guilty person has given advance thought to the matter and is prepared.
This is sending up lots of warning flares. So far nothing else in his background suggests that Cain doesn't not derserve the benefit of the doubt.
Edited on November 8, 2011 at 4:30pmAug '10
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A new witness has come forward with details of Cain's encounter with Bialek - a month ago at TeaCon meeting in Schaumburg Sept. 30-Oct. 1 at the Renaissance Hotel and Convention Center.
Read the whole thing here.
I am with Rob Long - Dems and the media have claimed for the last 20 years that this behavior isn't disqualifying - well OK then.