Does Anyone Really Care Whether They Cut a Deal Today?
tabula rasa ·
December 31, 2012 at 10:26pm
I know I should care because the issues are important. But, given that it's impossible that any deal will even begin to solve our deficit/spending problems (though the tax rate nightmare is very real), I'm having a hard time rousing much interest today.
My attitude goes something like: Whatever. Something right now may be worse than nothing. When it can no longer go on, it won't. Neither Obama nor Reid are seriously concerned about deficits (though they are concerned about maintaining their power). Boehner's a nice guy who can (1) throw in the towel, (2) make a symbolic deal, or (3) tell the president and Reid to stuff it. None of which will produce much of anything (though the final one would be the most enjoyable).
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May '12
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Right there with you TR. Any potential 'cure' is almost sure to be worse than the illness.
Aug '10
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I think the country should be treated like a remorseless alcoholic, let it hit bottom and then the recovery begins with fresh eyes on the hard realities . The family is broken, the kids resentful, the creditors stressed, and the liver permanently damaged . Sound familiar ?
Dec '10
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I say the Republicans should all vote present, let the Democrats do whatever, so they own 100% of the outcome ... any small changes the House GOP can negotiate will have almost no moderating impact on the economic train wreck that has already been scheduled for 2013.
No matter how small and inconsequential the GOP's final negotiated position, the GOP will get 100% percent of the blame fot the macroeconomic asteroid that Obama has aimed point blank at our economy.
Oct '10
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How many political parties does it take to kick the can down the road?
May '11
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Here's the problem, Flown: The government just goes and finds someone with a healthy liver and confiscates for a forced transplant. Yes, at some point they run out of livers. But not before they've taken yours and mine.
As for resentful kids, etc... never underestimate the power of blame. Watch to see who John Stewart blames tomorrow, and you will see who takes the fall in the eyes of our uninformed public - I'll bet it starts with a capital R and belongs to the pachyderm family.
May '11
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What's the first step to recovery? Acknowledging that you have a problem. I'm afraid this country won't do that until every last millionaire and billionaire is hanging from the gallows or has fled for his life.
Dec '10
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Exactly. They kicked the can down the road to today. They'll kick some of it, or most of it, down the road to--the next crisis--now.
I think we should send them all home for several months and see if anybody notices.
In the meantime, I think anyone who voted for kicking the can down the road to where we are today should be summarily dismissed.
And in the future, I think anyone who votes FOR something that they later want to vote AGAINST, or who wants to completely UNDO the outcome of his or her previous vote, because what he or she voted FOR in the first place is utterly untenable, ought to be required to resign.
Please excuse the split infinitive. I'm fed up.
Dec '12
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Exactly! I told my husband the other day that I think they're all just playing at government.
Dec '10
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jetstream: I say the Republicans should all vote present, let the Democrats do whatever, so they own 100% of the outcome ... any small changes the House GOP can negotiate will have almost no moderating impact on the economic train wreck that has already been scheduled for 2013.
No matter how small and inconsequential the GOP's final negotiated position, the GOP will get 100% percent of the blame for the macroeconomic asteroid that Obama has aimed point blank at our economy. · 1 hour ago
Exactly! The 47% takers along with the super-rich liberal elite have taken control. Let them have what they want. As others have pointed out, the political culture is nothing but that of a unrepentant alcoholic. Why should the Republicans and the productive members of the polity be a part of the co-dependency?
The tipping point has been reached. In the only words of Karl Marx that were ever true, "History repeats itself first as tragedy and second as farce." In the end we'll all have to move to Texas (the only real potential Galt Gulch) and secede from the People's Republic of America.
Sep '12
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The don't care attitude has hit me too. I'm taking the long view--I'll start to pay attention when they start to solve the problem. And sooner or later they are going to have to do that.
Dec '12
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Since you asked, I care. I care a lot. On a per$onal level, the deal, or the lack of one, or the uncertainty that goe$ with it, make$ a great big difference to me and mine. I can relax now, sort of.
Mar '11
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This headline of this thread is about the NHL, right...?
May '12
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I sort of care.
But I think, meh, que sera sera.
It's time to start the water so my brother and I can have a quick dinner of ravioli & sauce, then head to Mom's with my home made zucchini bread (and maybe pick up some egg nog) so we can welcome in the New Year.
Like a few people here, I won't be watching the ball drop.
Mind you, it is slightly less bitter cold tonight in NYC than last year, so the crowds at Times Square may be better off. Which is a good way to start the New Year off.
HNY everyone!
Feb '12
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Weeeeeeeeeeeee!
Yeeeee Hah!
Think of me as Slim Pickens, ridin it in.
Edited on December 31, 2012 at 11:39pmJul '10
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I care. If they cut a deal today it will be a disaster for the republic. Mitch McConnell has already gone public promoting a tax rise with no spending cuts. I do not understand why anyone with a grain of sense votes for these losers, they have no principles as they aid and abet the destruction of their nation.
If McConnell had made the announcement in a pink tutu and a Che t-shirt it could not have done more to undermine his party as a credible alternative.
I have made a fairly nice career of saving these idiots from themselves in my own meager way. Time to move on.
Nov '11
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"Whatever." A word we do not want to live without in 2013.
Apr '12
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It is time to stop blaming the politicians for doing what politicians do. These are their stripes. The only way to change this dumb way of running the country (into the ground) is congressional term limits. 10 years for the house and 12 years for senators. Listen, serve, and go home. Also maybe cap the number of attorneys that can be in congress at one time.
Jun '11
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The best word I've seen today is permanent, as in tax cuts.
The worst word has been postpone, as in the spending cuts.
Aug '10
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Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Apr '11
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Really? Then we can lose the Eric Cantors, Paul Ryans and Marco Rubios as well. I think politics requires experience, term limits would just usher in different incompetent legislators while removing the good ones we have now. So no, no, no, no!!