Dad Punishes Daughter, Gets 73,000 "Likes" on YouTube
Two million YouTube views in two days. Dad punishes daughter.
And I am violating the Ricochet Code of Conduct by posting this. But it's really blowing up on the internets, and it's exactly the kind of thing I'd like the smartest, wisest group anywhere to chime in on.
So, call it Executive Privilege. Since this isn't really a democracy, I'll accept lashes from Peter and Peter alone.
Still: fair warning: There's some salty language, but it's PG-13, I promise.
I honestly don't know what to think about this. So far, he's got 73k "Likes" on YouTube and only 5500 "Dislikes," so maybe that's saying something. I have to confess, though, that I got seriously creeped out at the end. Maybe it was the use of the "hollow points." Or am I being a squish?
Special Note: Sharp-eyed Ricochet member PracticalMary beat me to this post by several hours. Apologies to her! If you commented there, feel free to cut and paste here....
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May '11
Re: Dad Punishes Daughter, Gets 73,000 "Likes" on YouTube
I saw that same kind of anger in my father many times. It usually included corporal punishment.
i was in my mid-40's before I was finally able to see through everything and re-establish a close relationship.
I can't say I learned anything from the anger and punishment other than "Don't p--- off dad 'cause it will hurt."
I think Hannah is learning the same thing.
Feb '11
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Jimmy Carter
If it was an Apple, he should have shot it off his Daughter's head. · 10 minutes ago
If it was an Apple he wouldn't have shot it up. Nobody (without a full time cleaning lady) shoots up a $1500+ laptop, not even an IT cowboy :)
Nov '10
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Bingo!
I have 3 kids (the youngest is 24). Even in the best circumstances, there is nothing in the world meaner than 15 year old girl and there is nothing dumber than a 15 year old boy.
Divorce distills meanness. I don't know what the deal was with this guy and his daughter's mother that went awry. It is a fair bet that it was not pretty to the kids involved. This guy is frustrated and cannot deal with a frustrated kid.
For you parents of young children: When my kids misbehaved or mouthed off, they ran. At 4 years old it was about a quarter of a mile. By the time they were 12 it was several miles. They all became good athletes and they burned off a lot of excess energy that caused trouble.
Dec '10
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Let's see, you've got your Tiger Mom and your Cowboy Dad. I don't think I'd like to be raised by either.
I'm kind of torn on this one though. I agree that he's probably doomed his relationship with his daughter. She's been publicly humiliated on a scale unimaginable before Facebook/Youtube. Although, I don't feel much better about privately humiliating my kids, but whateryagonnado? You've got to civilize the little boogers somehow! Dirty little family secrets can be dangerous, though.
On the other hand, just to politicize this a bit, I think one of the biggest problems in America today is we're not allowed to shame anyone publicly. Kids are going to $20k/year colleges and using food stamps. Without shame! Or even a sense of irony!
Maybe the solution is to let the public publicly humiliate the kids, not the parents. But, the public has fallen down on the job.
Oct '10
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Everybody seems to want to have a say in how others relate to their offspring in these matters. Admirable efforts as they may be, how would others view the manner in which each of you deal with your teenagers ?
None of the commenters here live in his house or walk in his shoes listening to his daughter, ever. That gives everyone an easy out to self promotion.
Dealing with teenagers is a daunting task as a parent. Anyone, anyone, answer me how you thought of your parents at that age or behaved ?
An odd approach one found that used to work quite well with the young when they behaved poorly, trust me this works thru adulthood with respect to the parent.
Ask them if they remember Hansel and Gretel ?, then point to the oven.
Re: Dad Punishes Daughter, Gets 73,000 "Likes" on YouTube
Tommy De Seno
Rob Long
Tommy De Seno:
I used to think reports about internet and x-box addiction were loony until I saw it happen to my son. It seemed to me he got to a point where he couldn't stop playing it, like a junkie. Besides his school work even his interest in sports and friends waned. I tried so many ways to get him away from it but it pulled on him like a black hole.
I started to realize that the only way to get him off it was to have him go cold turkey. When I saw that "F" on his report card, I felt like it was a parental duty to kill that evil interloper who was ruining my son's life.
I smashed it to protect him from it. I hated that box. · 34 minutes ago
Louis CK has a joke in his act: creep up behind a kid who is watching TV and shut it off without warning him. Watch his reaction. Does that reaction suggest that watching TV is good for you?
Aug '11
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I tend to be pretty good at reading body language and picking up stuff from vocal inflections. What I hear when I watch this clip is not anger -- or at least not anger as the chief emotion. He's mad, that's clear. But I also hear a deep frustration and sorrow at the situation. I can hear it in his voice, plain as day.
Edited on February 11, 2012 at 12:09amDec '10
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One of the best punishments I've ever heard of for an ungrateful child was what my friends did with their daughter who tore through her Christmas gifts in about 5 minutes, throwing them over her shoulder as she went, shouting "NEXT!" /well, not literally, but you get the picture
They took every last possession from her apart from the clothes she needed to go to school and made her earn them all back. I think this dad could have used that technique more effectively than destroying her computer. Hannah would have even been inspired to get a job!
Dec '11
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Behold the power of group think.
May '10
Re: Dad Punishes Daughter, Gets 73,000 "Likes" on YouTube
She went public first. Kinda seems like she wanted to be public with her drama. Didn't she get her wish?
Oct '10
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It does make a statement when the fella arrives with expectations and has to watch Dad cleaning his pistol. Call me Old Fashioned.
Feb '11
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Do any of you have any idea how many times during my 21 years in IT I've wanted to do that? A dream come true - vicariously.
Feb '12
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Rob Long
Wise, wise words. · 1 hour ago
I think the fact that he took the time to actually write out what he wanted to say and then record it shows that he wasn't just reacting to his obvious frustration with his daughter's behavior.
Mar '11
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This is just wrong, from an aesthetic perspective anyway.
You don't shoot a puny little laptop with .45 hollow point ammo. Get yourself a shotgun and some #2 birdshot and do it up right.
Oct '11
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My brother took the cell phone from his then-15 year old daughter's hand and chopped it up with a band saw. He will be my hero FOREVER. And had he posted a video on YouTube I would have loved him all the more.
Yes, yes, yes, communication is important, we should all try to have good relationships with our children, blah, blah, blah. But just because we want it doesn't mean they do.
And the second you want something more than they do, they are in the power position.
She made the issue public using FB, this dad fought fire with fire. I am a lover of technology, but raising kids with cell phones and lap tops and FB is an unprecedented challenge. And there's no winning, by the way. Only surviving ... if you're lucky.
Aug '10
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Yes, but only if they're watching Cheers re-runs.
Dec '10
Re: Dad Punishes Daughter, Gets 73,000 "Likes" on YouTube
DrewInWisconsin: I tend to be pretty good at reading body language and picking up stuff from vocal inflections. What I hear when I watch this clip is not anger -- or at least not anger as the chief emotion. He's mad, that's clear. But I also hear a deep frustration and sorrow at the situation. I can hear it in his voice, plain as day. · 28 minutes ago
Edited 23 minutes ago
The exact same thing struck me. From the evidence at hand, he cares about her, and despite past poor behavior he stumbled across this while spending his own money and time on her. From my perspective he is not doing this out of vengence but as an extreme measure, in the hopes of shocking her out of bad behavior before she becomes hew own vitcim later in life. A true act of love, since it requires sacrificing your own desire to make the punishment brief and get on with a more comfortable life.
Apr '11
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He states, "I don't know if you'll see this." She'll see it. She has friends on Facebook, this has gone viral, and the internet is everywhere nowadays. She'll see it; it'll mortify her. I can imagine quite a bit of resentment. Teenagers aren't rational creatures.
I've seen this shared by friends with kids and without kids. Universally there's enjoyment. I suspect it's cathartic -- how many frustrated parents have wanted to do the same? This man crossed the line most would never cross.
I agree with some above analysis. There's a lot more going on in the background. It's as if we're catching the climax of the film, when there's been at least 75 minutes of film before that leading up to the moment shots were fired.
Nov '10
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A local weekly newspaper publishes a "police blotter" feature. I'm sure it's a favorite for most readers--I know my 12-year-old daughter loves it. It says things like, "Concerned shop owner called about a man wearing a sleeveless shirt on Main St., in twenty-degree weather. She claimed he was peeking in her store windows before it opened."
Anyway, it seems like every week there are one or more reports of Mom or Dad, especially Mom, calling the police to report on Son or Daughter, who is usually 14 years old. That is sad to me, that parents feel so helpless (probably there are lots of single moms out there struggling with sons).
It tells me that raising teenagers can be very tough.
Jan '11
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I have four kids. Before I had kids, I would have offered an opinion on parenting skills. After four of them, I don't give advice anymore.
I'm lucky to have a fairly good relationship with each of my kids, but that's not a matter of my skill or wisdom. Like any other relationship, it takes two; and in a family, we all give each other a lot of help.
But more than a few times, I've laid down some law. I've punished them, yelled at them, and popped a few veins. I know where this guy is coming from. I probably wouldn't have gone where he went, but we all probably know the frustration.
I'm a dad. I'm not their buddy, or pal, or a clinical therapist. That isn't my job. My job is not to play a role. My job is to be myself - hoping they'll learn more from an honest adult reaction than any staged acting job based on some theory of parenting.
If he abused the daughter, we should all protect the girl. But this is one of those times I'd rather butt out.