Two million YouTube views in two days.  Dad punishes daughter.  

And I am violating the Ricochet Code of Conduct by posting this.  But it's really blowing up on the internets, and it's exactly the kind of thing I'd like the smartest, wisest group anywhere to chime in on.

So, call it Executive Privilege.  Since this isn't really a democracy, I'll accept lashes from Peter and Peter alone.  

Still: fair warning:  There's some salty language, but it's PG-13, I promise.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.  So far, he's got 73k "Likes" on YouTube and only 5500 "Dislikes," so maybe that's saying something.  I have to confess, though, that I got seriously creeped out at the end.  Maybe it was the use of the "hollow points."  Or am I being a squish?

Special Note:  Sharp-eyed Ricochet member PracticalMary beat me to this post by several hours. Apologies to her!  If you commented there, feel free to cut and paste here....

Comments:


Mama Toad
Joined
Feb '11
Mama Toad

I think that shooting the laptop was a bad move. IT made him look vengeful and petty. I think he should have sold it on craigslist or something, and used the money to go out to dinner with his wife or bought her some beautiful flowers. 

Posting it at the girl's Facebook page also makes him look vengeful and petty.

Finally, I doubt that his daughter will learn anything from this, other than that her dad is a jerk. I am not saying he really is a jerk, just that is what his daughter will take away. I'd have more respect for him if he did something to give his daughter a chance to earn back his respect. This just seems wasteful.

(Also, Rob, PracticalMary beat you to the post...)

Edited on February 10, 2012 at 10:19pm
Misthiocracy
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Aug '10
Misthiocracy
Rob Long: And I am violating the Ricochet Code of Conduct by posting this.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Whoa!

I did not think that it was a CofC violation to merely link to a salty site.

That's the sort of regulatory overreach I'd expect from an Obama administration apparatchik!

jeffp
Joined
Mar '11
jeffp

I'm with Rob. Confiscate the laptop, sure; perforate it with ammo? OTT. Wasteful, too. (Maybe I'm just cheaper; if I'd spent $130 on software the day before, there's no way I'd be shooting the computer up.) But I also found the whole idea of making a Youtube video detailing my kid's transgression and punishment a bit immature; discipline is a matter for the family, not the viewing public. Is the dad more concerned that his daughter learn a lesson and recognize her error or that his wounded pride be restored?

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

5500 dislikes is very high, ackshully.

Most videos, even popular ones, get fewer than 100 dislikes.

Misthiocracy
Joined
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Misthiocracy

He paid for the computer. He can do whatever he wants with it.

Samuel Amaral
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Samuel Amaral
Rob Long:  I have to confess, though, that I got seriously creeped out at the end.  Maybe it was the use of the "hollow points."  Or am I being a squish? · · 12 minutes ago

I think the point about the dad mentioning the ''hollow point bullets'' is that the daughter will have to refund him the 8$ it took to buy them before dreaming of getting a new computer. I don't think you should be worried by it.

Misthiocracy: He paid for the computer. He can do whatever he wants with it. · 1 minute ago

True words, I think shooting the computer was a good way to remind her that of that fact.

jeffp: But I also found the whole idea of making a Youtube video detailing my kid's transgression and punishment a bit immature; discipline is a matter for the family, not the viewing public.

I think the daughter offense was kind of public, so a public punishment was warranted I guess.

The video reminds me of my own Dad, and the reason why I bought my own car : He wouldn't let me touch his.

Leigh
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Leigh

Mama Toad: I think that shooting the laptop was a bad move. IT made him look vengeful and petty. I think he should have sold it on craigslist or something, and used the money to go out to dinner with his wife or bought her some beautiful flowers. 

Posting it at the girl's Facebook page also makes him look vengeful and petty.

I agree.  He should have had that conversation with her privately -- and then require her to post a note on Facebook.  She did it publicly so there should be a public retraction.

(It also sounds like some of that language he rebukes her for came from Dad.  No chance any of her friends think "double standard?")

The only thing I really liked about it was the way he called her out for her disrespect to the "cleaning lady" -- that was deserved and thorough.


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Guruforhire

 Meh.  My dad would have cut it in half with a bandsaw.

AUMom
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Jun '10
AUMom

I watched but winced at his language. Should he be so surprised that his daughter uses it on Facebook?

I applaud the principle of making her responsible for a new laptop and the software. I wish it was not enforced quite so crassly. 

The shooting of the laptop was over the top. I bet none of Hannah's FB friends ever cross her dad for any reason.

katievs
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katievs

I'm with Mama Toad.  I started watching (because a Facebook friend linked it) expecting it was going to be light hearted and funny.  Instead he comes off as a controlling jerk.  I couldn't get through the whole thing.  

Edited on February 10, 2012 at 10:35pm
Lucy Pevensie
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Nov '10
Lucy Pevensie

 I think that it was bad parenting, myself.  Do we all get angry at our kids?  Yes.  But our job as parents is not to take out our anger on them.  Our job is to provide appropriate discipline.  Sometimes we'll overreach, but this is way beyond normal overreaching, I think.

One of my favorite parenting experts says that a consequence for an infraction should never be relational.  The child did a bad thing, so there's a price that must be paid, but that price is not loss of our love for them. All consequences really should come with the assurance that the infraction does not jeopardize the parent-child relationship. So, sure: take the laptop away for good.  But do it in a matter of fact way:  "Wow; I know you're an adolescent and impulsiveness comes with the age, and it's a shame that the consequence is that you can't have a laptop any more."

Act the way this guy does, and the daughter's facebook rant is, in fact, right; when the father is old and needs his child to take care of him, she will be long gone.

Leigh
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Nov '11
Leigh

What was missing was anything to indicate "I love you, honey, and I'm doing it for your own good." 

Yes, if he spent all that time and money the day before I'm guessing he cares about his daughter; but it looks here like he is disciplining in anger, not love.

Rob Long

Misthiocracy: 5500 dislikes is very high, ackshully.

Most videos, even popular ones, get fewer than 100 dislikes. · 19 minutes ago

True, but he actually shoots a computer with hollow point rounds from a .45.  I expected more than a 7% negative rating for that.

Gus Marvinson
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Mar '11
Gus Marvinson

When Practical Mary posted this video this morning I sat my 13 year-old down with me so we could watch it together. We both laughed, although his was more like a mildly uncomfortable chuckle.

Message transmitted and received. 

doc molloy
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Feb '12
doc molloy

Not a good look all round.. and putting rounds into the lap top was a very bad move. The kid is 13 and living in the wired world and her dad claims to be an IT worker so he should have handled the situation differently calmly and privately.. By the way dad, smoking kills.. and I bet his blood pressure was way up.. chill a little before you act.

Rob Long

Parents, help me out here:  I get that in the moment, people (and parents are "people," I get that) can be a little wild-eyed and out of control in the anger department.  But to set up the computer, load up the .45, plan it all out -- don't you at some point in that process think, "You know what?  I'm just going to sit her down and yell at her," or something.

It's the public-ness that creeps me out.  That he seemed mad that she posted something about him on Facebook.  As if Facebook matters.

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

How many years before some dude will ask Her out?

Lucy Pevensie
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Lucy Pevensie

Rob Long: Parents, help me out here:  I get that in the moment, people (and parents are "people," I get that) can be a little wild-eyed and out of control in the anger department.  But to set up the computer, load up the .45, plan it all out -- don't you at some point in that process think, "You know what?  I'm just going to sit her down and yell at her," or something.

It's the public-ness that creeps me out.  That he seemed mad that she posted something about him on Facebook.  As if Facebook matters.

Well, I already said I thought he was way out of line.  It's a bit weird, isn't it?  Yes, it's public; it's also clear that it is a response that is arising from his sense of personal injury.  It's clearly not discipline as much as it is revenge.

FeliciaB
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May '10
FeliciaB

This guy is trying to close the barn door after the animals have already escaped.  He's fallen down on the job as a parent and is now trying to recoup the ground he lost in an angry and vengeful manner.  

A good father would have established a close relationship with his child by setting healthy boundaries when the child was young.  His lack of sticking to healthy boundaries created the spoiled, self-absorbed teenager.  Judging by the video he posted, I get the sense, he doesn't really understand what an adult really is since he's acting like a vengeful teenager himself.

Rob Long
doc molloy: . chill a little before you act. · 6 minutes ago

Wise, wise words.


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