Cute Kids Can't Be Wrong, Can They?
This kind of bothered me. How about you?
Two weeks ago, my husband and I made the decision to homeschool our oldest daughter. There were a lot of reasons, but a few sprung from the pretty convincing book by Marybeth Hicks called, Don't Let the Kids Drink the Kool-Aid. Now, she doesn't advocate homeschooling. In fact, I think she'd rather us stand up to the garbage by being active in the school community. But we had other reasons for homeschooling as well. Maybe I'll elaborate in another post. (I really should be going over linking verbs right now anyway.) But the point is, I think this is some pretty serious Kool-Aid.
Just curious what you all think ...
h/t Melissa Clouthier's Twitter feed.
Ed note: Member Barbara Lydick posted about this back in August. Hope no one minds the rehash!
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Aug '11
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I almost posted exactly the same comment. And in thinking about it, I could only conclude that this video isn't intended for adult consumption, but rather for the consumption of other kids. But to what end? Kids don't understand or likely care about these issues.
So I have to conclude it is merely a means to get the repeated slogans lodged in their heads, lying there like the seeds of revolution, so that when they grow up, they are already conditioned to believe these things.
Edited on November 11, 2011 at 9:09pmMay '11
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You might spot something about that if you read the U.S. Code. You won't have to read very far. Title I, Section 1 (yes, that is the very first provision in our federal law) states:
the words "person" and "whoever" include corporatio­ns, companies, associatio­ns, firms, partnershi­ps, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals
Of course, the personhood trope is only about corporations that don't agree with lefties. You never hear them argue that the NY Times doesn't have free speech rights, or Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, etc. Or especially unions.
May '10
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DrewInWisconsin
I almost posted exactly the same comment. And in thinking about it, I could only conclude that this video isn't intended for adult consumption, but rather for the consumption of other kids. But to what end? Kids don't understand or likely care about these issues.
So I have to conclude it is merely a means to get the repeated slogans stuck in their heads, lying there like the seeds of revolution, so that when they grow up, they are already conditioned to believe these things. · Nov 11 at 11:56am
I think that's very likely. Start the Big Lie early, and repeat it endlessly.
Aug '11
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I have nothing good to say aboout the video, but what's the connection with home schooling? Van Jones does not run any public schools that I know of.
Oct '11
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So tired of kids...particulary speaking the empty adult speak
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A tenuous connection and not well explained. Sorry, twvolck.
Basically, I was attempting to connect the video with the book Don't Let the Kids Drink the Kool-Aid and then with our decision to homeschool, which was based, in part, on the many and devastating examples Hicks gives in her book of liberal-think taking over our kids and their places of school and community. Still might not be explaining it well, sorry. Short on time means short on thinking through things.
Nov '11
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Ugh! What flavor of chemically-concocted juice drink did they make these kids drink before putting them through their paces...Child endangerment, imho. Ursula, Godspeed in your efforts!
Apr '11
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What kids are going to be persuaded by this nonsense? These obnoxious brats would invite a beat down on any playground worth its sand.
DrewInWisconsin
I could only conclude that this video isn't intended for adult consumption, but rather for the consumption of other kids. But to what end? Kids don't understand or likely care about these issues.
So I have to conclude it is merely a means to get the repeated slogans lodged in their heads, lying there like the seeds of revolution, so that when they grow up, they are already conditioned to believe these things. · Nov 11 at 11:56am
Edited on Nov 11 at 12:09 pm
Jan '11
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Ursula Hennessey
Anon
The issue here is homeschooling, and that video stands as clear evidence that public schools are making idiots of our children. If you're a parent that provides balance, than good for you, but know that you're rare among parents.
Anon, I hesitate to agree with the first sentence. I do think some (even many?) public schools do more good than harm. I do agree that parents must be extremely vigilant. Providing balance takes a lot of time and effort in the form of following curriculum changes carefully and making oneself heard at meetings, etc.
We share the same hopes, Ursula, but I lack your confidence. Abigail and Stephen Thurnstrum's book, No Excuses: Closing the Racial Gap in Learning, was an eye opener for me. Reading Eric Buehrer's The Public Orphanage: How Public Schools are Making Parents Irrelevant, opened the other. The video sums up the education establishment's learning model - repeat after me. There are two authorities involved in education, the parent(s) and the teachers. Which are children more likely to challenge? Who to accept as speaking revealed truth? Which do most parents hold up as the education authority?
Oct '11
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speaking of "sand", it is only one grain at a time
Oct '11
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speaking of "sand", it is only one grain at a time
Nov '10
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Way to go, Ursula. As a public school teacher, I support and recommend homeschooling with all of my heart.
Olive
Nov '10
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Hi Ursula,
Congrats on making the decision to homeschool. it is perhaps one of the most difficult and yet most rewarding things you can do for your kids. Ignore the detractors and prepare to swim against the cultural tide daily. My Wife, a former teacher, and I made the call when the first of our three daughters was in preschool and we haven't looked back. I love what I see in my kids and I know that you will too.
As to the video...the fact that video exists means that there are people with access to kids through the school system who wish to indoctrinate them. This is reason enough in my book to homeschool. That being said, whether you homeschool, private school, or public school you have to be ever vigilant and ready to give your children the proper perspective on these things. Our responsibility as parents never ceases and we do great disservice to them if we fail to give them the ability to think critically.
Oct '10
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Does this video violate child labor laws ? Consider that, Really.
Dec '10
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Good on ya' Ursula!! We're in year 16 of homeschooling our 4 kids and can't imagine doing it any other way. I know there are mixed feelings about the decision by others who have chosen, or are products of, institutional education. I get that but I have a question: What positive social skill did you develop in school that you couldn't better learn from your family? For most of us, the first thing that springs to our mind are the various and sundry negative social skills/lessons from our school years. Another thing; the only other time, in your entire life, where you're around that many people that are all the same age, is the nursing home. Who among us doesn't want to avoid THAT? Finally, to the topic at hand. The move on.org video is so loaded with socialist dogma, brain dead economics, and emotional claptrap, it nearly collapses in on itself. "Tax Wall Street"??? Surely Soros has taught his minions that any "tax" will merely be offset by "fees" on little ole' middle class ME, right?
Aug '10
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Maybe it was part of an after-school drama program.
May '10
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I wish you well with homeschooling your eldest, Ursula! You'll probably rethink it a few (or perhaps many) times, especially the first year, but I encourage you and your husband to trust your parental instincts. My prayers will be with you and yours.
-- From a wish-I-wasn't-finished-with-homeschooling mom
May '10
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DrewInWisconsin: "The Van Jones Group" pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
Question: how is this video being used? In schools?
We're in our second year of homeschooling and this second year is going much better than the first. Not that the first was bad, but our seven-year-old regularly tested her boundaries. This year she's far more compliant, but still gripes about math. (The six year old is either the most agreeable student ever, or she's pulling an Eddie Haskell on us.) · Nov 11 at 9:15am
Drew, I had a very similar situation with my daughter who developed all sorts of resistance techniques to memorizing the multiplication tables. Her younger brother was always, like your six year old, incredibly compliant about learning anything, When he started catching up with his sister in math, that totally changed her attitude. Nothing like a little competition.
Edited on November 12, 2011 at 5:44amApr '11
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Wouldn't Leni Riefenstahl be proud of Van Jones?
Nov '10
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Loved this thread, Ursula, almost as much as I loathe that video clip. I also recently finished Kool-Aid and found it chilling.
Anti-leftist homeschooling anecdote: We were reading an old Plutarch's life of Lycurgus adapted for young folks, which mentioned that the Spartan lawgiver divided up the land into equal-sized plots and dispersed them among the citizens. Later it mentioned that the "rich Spartans" objected to some of Lycurgus' laws. "Where did the 'rich' folks come from?" I asked. My daughter thought about it a minute and said, "Well, not everyone is going to be a good farmer. I mean, just because you give people the same thing at first doesn't mean they're going to stay the same, does it?"
SCORE!
I hope you'll continue to post on your experiences. Sounds like there are a bunch of homeschooling parents among us, which sure is a nice change of milieu for me. ;)