Troy Senik, Ed. · April 17, 2012 at 6:19pm
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The Young Guns are back in the saddle this week and, with Meghan Clyne traveling, we'll be joined by Ben Domenech and Emily Esfahani Smith.

Given the success of the audience suggestions that poured into the main podcast -- and the questions that we've solicited in the past for "Law Talk" -- we think it's high time that we do a more interactive episode. So we're seeking audience input on what topics you'd be interested in hearing us tackle or what questions you'd like us to answer (though nothing about my ill-fated turn in "Spider Man: Turn Off the Dark," please). Let us know in the comments.

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Casey Taylor
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Casey Taylor
Matthew Gilley: 1.  To test your conservativebona fides, how many of you own guns (or a gun)?

I have extra.

Casey Taylor
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Casey Taylor

My question for Meghan (when she returns):  What, exactly, is your deal with Pej?  He's such a sweetheart!  You should be nicer.

Pat in Obamaland
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Pat in Obamaland

What are your favorite sources of news?  Are there particular blogs or news aggregating sites that you find most helpful for staying informed?


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Kr5s

When the young guns consider the younger guns (i.e. high schoolers ) what do they find what do they find most encouraging and most discouraging?

Palaeologus
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Palaeologus

Doctor Bean

Squishy Blue RINO: Like a suspicious cold sore, bouts of egregious California bashing erupt here with alarming regularity, and mar the visage of our fair community (by which I mean Ricochet, not the 310).

So I propose the topic: California bashing- sour grapes or provincial delusion? · 53 minutes ago

California bashing is simply envy. · 7 hours ago

No. It really isn't.

Thus my questions for Troy and Diane:

1. Will the CA GOP ever again run a candidate for statewide office who has  more to offer than a personally funded campaign?

2. Or are you perpetually stuck with a garden variety, wealthy ignoramus each cycle?

Fredösphere
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Fredösphere

By the way, it was the moment someone on Young Guns referenced the Footprints In the Sand poem, and made little effort to explain what they were talking about, that I knew I was listening to a group of people marinated in cheesy evangelica.

Louie Mungaray (Squishy)
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Palaeologus

California bashing is simply envy. · 7 hours ago

No. It really isn't.

Thus my questions for Troy and Diane:

1. Will the CA GOP ever again run a candidate for statewide office who has  more to offer than a personally funded campaign?

2. Or are you perpetually stuck with a garden variety, wealthy ignoramus each cycle? · 1 hour ago

I heard James Poulos and Conor Friedersdorf discussing the CA GOP here

James breaks down CA GOP dysfunction as a rat's nest of four incongruous factions: Ron Paul libertarians,  RINO-y moderate Republicans (como yo), Hard Core/Tom McClintock conservatives, and County Club conservatives who have little love for any of the other camps.

My RINO realpolitik take is that any candidate that makes it through the red-meat state GOP primary is DOA come the state wide race, and any candidate who runs in the GOP primary with the state wide race in mind will incur the wrath of sundry hard cores.

Case in point: Whitman's doomed Yosemite Sam/Speedy Gonzales immigration pivot.

It is a double bind, a Catch 22, a log jam. 

But that's just politics.

California remains a wonderful place to live.

wilber forge
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wilber forge

Now here is a thought for the young. Considering the difficulty of working offshore and filing taxes. Quite a number of people have chosen to relinquish their status as citizens. Is this a selfish act or brought about by the burdens imposed by the current tax system.

How would this be percieved from the younger minds of today ?

Edited on April 18, 2012 at 8:41am
John Marzan
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Doctor Bean

Squishy Blue RINO: Like a suspicious cold sore, bouts of egregious California bashing erupt here with alarming regularity, and mar the visage of our fair community (by which I mean Ricochet, not the 310).

So I propose the topic: California bashing- sour grapes or provincial delusion? · 53 minutes ago

California bashing is simply envy. · 7 hours ago

No. It really isn't.

Thus my questions for Troy and Diane:

1. Will the CA GOP ever again run a candidate for statewide office who has  more to offer than a personally funded campaign?

2. Or are you perpetually stuck with a garden variety, wealthy ignoramus each cycle? · 4 hours ago

what if adam carolla runs as an independent? conservatives and republicans should support him.

Mark Wilson
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Doctor Bean

Squishy Blue RINO: Like a suspicious cold sore, bouts of egregious California bashing erupt here with alarming regularity, and mar the visage of our fair community (by which I mean Ricochet, not the 310).

So I propose the topic: California bashing- sour grapes or provincial delusion? · 53 minutes ago

California bashing is simply envy. · 14 hours ago

I live here and I bash this place all the time.  There's plenty that's great about here, but also plenty to bash.  Kind of like Newt Gingrich.

My question for the young gunners:  The thesis of John Derbyshire's book We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism is that nearly all the long term trends in demographics, culture, religion, sexuality, economics, and education are negative for conservatives, and we have very little to be optimistic about.  Do young conservatives subscribe to this gloomy outlook?  Can we bring the ship about?  Or (forgive the mixed metaphor) must we adapt and forge a new path through the terrain before us?

Sidebar: Now that everything John Derbyshire has ever written has been thoroughly discredited, are we still doomed?

Edited on April 18, 2012 at 10:40am
John Marzan
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how does a young conservative survive high school, college and hollywood/pop culture indoctrination?

John Marzan
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John Marzan

California is just a proxy.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson

Casey Taylor

Matthew Gilley: 1.  To test your conservativebona fides, how many of you own guns (or a gun)?

I have extra. · 15 hours ago

I'll send you my address in a PM =)

Not that I'm shorthanded, but since you're offering....

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

Doctor Bean: ............. I find the comments of Creationists among the Ricochetese quite disturbing and fascinating. ........ People of all religions and no religion can embrace the theory of evolution, and should do so, since it is as close to the truth as anything else we know. By Creationists, I mean people who actually don't believe that species evolve. People who deny that I and my cat (and my lawn) have a common ancestor. I don't think such people are dangerous or malicious, and they tend to agree with me on many political issues; I just think they're wrong on a fairly basic demonstrable fact.

So I'd love a podcast debate between an opponent of the theory of evolution and a supporter. Religion can (but need not) play into it. They can both be religious.

..................

You know that the "debate" starts out as essentially dishonest when one side consciously mischaracterizes the other, using the word "Creationists" in an intended pejorative fashion.  The exact same trick used by the Warmthers when they refer to "Climate Change Deniers".  

Dr. Berlinski needs to come back and re-establish the terms of the issue on its proper philosophical foundation.

Doctor Bean
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Duane: I honestly didn't mean "creationist" in any pejorative sense. I'm happy to use the phrase "those who don't believe my cat and I have a common ancestor" or any shorter emotionally neutral phrase that refers to the same set of people. I'm not at all trying to start the debate dishonestly. One can believe in God and that He is behind all thing and is responsible for all creation and accept that my aunt and the palm tree out side my office window have a common ancestor. The opinion that they do not is simply unsupported by any evidence. Dr. Berlinski was quite fuzzy on this matter. He raised objections to the theory of evolution, but never made it clear (at least to me) what he believes. I don't mind philosophical objections to the theory of evolution. I just don't have a better explanation of how species arise and I don't think anyone else does.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson
Doctor Bean: Dr. Berlinski was quite fuzzy on this matter. He raised objections to the theory of evolution, but never made it clear (at least to me) what he believes.

I noticed this too and I found it pretty unsatisfying.

Duane Oyen
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Duane Oyen

At the risk of hijacking the thread, the fundamental point is that some things we simply may not ever "know" to any level of verifiable satisfaction. 

It is perfectly reasonable for scientists to poke holes in  current theories without being able to posit a "natural" answer.  Nothing whatever actually depends on knowing the definitive answer- science- biology, standard model particle physics, engineering, physiology, etc., don't rely for a nanosecond on whether or not we can reconstruct primordial events. 

Have you ever looked much at the degree of actual evidence behind so much of this retrospective science?  I haven't seen a single coherent idea that didn't require giant leaps of faith, or that didn't have myriad fatal flaws at the system level- Dawkins, Gould, and Kauffman all disagree with each other as much as they disagree with Dembski. 

But I don't honestly worry about it a whole lot.  Regarding common descent, views among ID people are all over the map- for example, Behe agrees with you about common ancestry, just not the absolute and undirected randomness aspect.

The ones I have little patience for are the Young Earthers.

Grendel
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Grendel
Fredösphere: By the way, it was the moment someone on Young Guns referenced the Footprints In the Sand poem, and made little effort to explain what they were talking about, that I knew I was listening to a group of people marinated in cheesy evangelica.

You're a hard man, Fredösphere, but I reject the poem's key conceit.

Doctor Bean
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Duane Oyen: Have you ever looked much at the degree of actual evidence behind so much of this retrospective science?

Yes. It's not that retrospective anymore with the advent of molecular biology. The gene homologies between different species make anything except common ancenstry exceedingly hard to defend.

Duane Oyen: The ones I have little patience for are the Young Earthers. 

Good. So there is a line of unreason you won't cross. That's a small victory. The next is when I convince you that there is much more evidence that you and your pet fish have a common ancestor than that the Earth is billions of years old (which it surely is). But you're right. We're hijacking a thread on a tangential topic, so I'll let you have the last word, thank you for the discussion, and I'll shut up about it for now.


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