Congratulations, Elton and David?
dxturner ·
December 28, 2010 at 10:18pm
He was born a pauper to a pawn on Christmas Day
When the New York Times said God is dead
Elton John and David Furnish announce the birth of their(?) son, Levon, via surrogate mother.
No mention on if labor was induced or the child born by Caesarean, but seriously, on Christmas Day?
Call me cynical, but I wonder how this impacts the sales of Madman Across the Water.
This all seems so contrived, and it just seems wrong in so many ways. If we say "congratulations" on this are we congratulating the birth, the science, the confusion created about what being a parent means, or the marketing genius of having the birth of child to match a song lyric?
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Aug '10
Re: Congratulations, Elton and David?
The labor being induced is that which you have brought upon our already overloaded sensors. As for the Caesarean, there's another good thing about that empire being gone.
In other words, a non-event of consequence to no one except a child we can only hope will feel loved and not be too confused by his circumstance.
Levon, meet Prince.
Nov '10
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I truly hope I'm wrong, but experience tells me this child is doomed in so many respects it's depressing.
May '10
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There's an old gospel song: "Motherless Child." "Oh, the motherless child has a mighty hard time when Mama's gone..."
Poor kid. Wealthy, yes, but whose home life will be, seems to me, strange and freakish.
Sep '10
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A few years ago when Brittany Spears was a wretch in the news as opposed to now when she is not in the news. A little girl was interviewed on one of those shows and asked what she thought of Brittany now. The little girl gave one of the most erudite responses to the antics of these people that I have ever heard. She said, "oou"
Jul '10
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May '10
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This story could be used as a litmus test for homophobia. For instance, I saw a headline earlier announcing the birth of Elton John's son and my first reaction was, "Uh... how'd he manage that?" I may have even scoffed! I'm an awful bigot.
May '10
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Don't care less about the fact there are two gay men here with a child.
I do question whether it is wise to father a baby at 63yo, or 49yo. Late fatherhood has risks associated with the quality of sperm (Mother Nature can be quite a bitch), with Elton at 84 as the son turns 21.
Just because we can do it medically via IVT does not infer we should do so; and this would hold for any combination of parenting, including those who perhaps selfishly decide to use IVF for parenting at 50+.
On the programming of births, this has been going for as long as Obstetricians have being playing golf, or in Australia's case delaying birth until new social security measures cut-over with more baby bonuses.
Aug '10
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The case itself doesn't amount to a hill of beans except that it's an example of the manipulation (corruption) of language for political ends- viz: marriage, parent,mother , father, partner, right, choice, entitlement, liberal, and so on ad nauseum. BTW How many parents does this child have? Are we sure they didn't use a sperm donor?
Sep '10
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Who was the real father? The other dude is just so much ballast.
Jul '10
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I'm really at a loss as to why we're even discussing this. As the only declared homo I've ever encountered on Ricochet, I feel the need to chime in and ask, how in the world does this relate to the type of conservative political discourse we typically engage in on here? There's not a lot of gay-bashing on the site normally...
The age of the parents makes me a little uncomfortable but there have certainly been older parents in the history of the world. I don't hate doctors enough to believe one would intentionally have induced labor on this date unless there was a viable reason. And everyone's upbringing and home-life can seem freakish to someone with a different perspective, but this kid is likely to have more opportunities and resources available to him than most so let's consider being jealous instead of being vaguely disgusted. It's incredibly unbecoming.
Aug '10
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JMG
Methinks thou doth protest too much. I didn't see that many comments that were unbecoming and I made a joke about the child and those of Michael Jackson. The surrogacy certainly offends more than any personal choice that the purchasers may make in their lifestyle. And purchasers is accurate, heartlessly so. John and Furnish have been role models in their dedication to one another and it's hard to dispute that. My wife sat next to them one night in a restaurant and said that Furnish probably has one of the world's great bitches for a wife, as John sat there and forbade the entourage of eight to say a word during dinner. Unfortunately, the media throws this news at society in an agenda-laden fusillade that is annoying and does threaten the child's future happiness by building the fishbowl of his childhood. The onus is on the parents to love and shield him from the false sycophancy that is so much a part of their lives. It's not about being gay, it's about being Tatum O'Neal.
Aug '10
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I read that the egg came from another donor,not the surrogate-apparently as required by California law.The more I learn the worse it all looks.Where will a line be drawn?If a line is drawn?
Sep '10
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I had the same thought...which one is the father? Nature is so cruel...
May '10
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You missed one.