Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
The Logo ·
Oct 5, 2011 at 8:47am
Our second Center of Gravity poll paints a picture of three GOP presidential candidates -- Cain, Perry, and Romney -- breaking away from the pack.
- About half of respondents wouldn't vote for either Jon Huntsman or Ron Paul even if each was the only alternative to our current president. 45% of you wouldn't vote for Huntsman, mostly because he's seen as not conservative enough, another 47% think Ron Paul is too flawed along an unspecified but seemingly non-political dimension.
- There's a sharp divide seen in the electability of the candidates. Seven of the thirteen potential candidates are seen as electable by fewer than 30% of respondents, while the other six candidates are seen as electable by at least 65% -- no candidate scores in between. Unfortunately, only three of the six seen as electable are running: Cain, Perry, and Romney.
- A plurality of respondents give Herman Cain the Buckley award for being the most conservative candidate who can get elected.
- Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan, in particular, score very high on every level: they have virtually no detractors among the respondents, when pitted against Obama; they're considered highly electable; and they're seen as very conservative. Chris Christie has more detractors, but is second only to Romney in perceived electability.
- Although Mitt Romney isn't viewed as particularly conservative, he scores highest (91%) in electability. 17% of Ricochet respondents wouldn't support him against Obama.
- Rick Perry is seen as more conservative than Romney, but not quite as electable. 10% of Ricochet respondents wouldn't support him against Obama.
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Nov '10
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
Okay, who's the joker who said Herman Cain isn't conservative enough?
Oct '10
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For 2 frustratingly unsuccessful days I tried to pose and never got through. I'm reasonably computer and internet savvy, so what do I not understand. The original post never displayed a link, and every alternative means I tried brought me nothing.
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Maybe I need glasses because I think Rick Santorum got the most "too conservative" votes and also got 6 "not conservative enough votes."
By the way, am I the only person who likes Rick Santorum?
1. He has a cool logo.
2. The left hates him.
3. His face is very close to being symmetrical.
Sep '10
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I do not see how anyone would think that an ex-Wall Street banker would stand a snowballs chance of getting elected. Obama would make minced meat out of Romney.
Feb '11
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17% of Ricochet respondents wouldn't support [Romney] against Obama.
17%? 17% would rather see four more years of Obama??? That statistic is simply unbelievable. Do people think some white knight is going to come riding along in 2016 and magically undo the damage that will be the result of eight years of Obama and his administration? If so, they are living in a dreamland that makes the left's weltanschauung look positively rational. The Republican party is notorious for its talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. If this statistic is representative of the party as a whole, that is what is in store for them in 2012, and they will be getting what they deserve.
Frozen Chosen
People on our side better get used to it and take whatever medication they need to pull the lever for whichever of them gets the nomination.
Another 4 years of Obama is not an option!
Agreed 100%
Edited on Oct 5, 2011 at 12:36pmRe: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
I'm sorry, Raycon, that we didn't get your input. The three Main Feed posts (here, here, and here) contained links to the post containing the poll, which was "sticky" at the top of the Member Feed for the duration of the poll.
The post on the Member Feed embedded the poll, which in turn was driven by Survey Monkey. We had two reports, I believe, of Members having problems with the survey working from IE 9 and an iPad, although it worked when we tested those platforms, and Survey Monkey claims they're compatible.
Once the survey's taken from your computer, by the way, it collapses, so if someone else in your household of workplace used the computer to complete the survey, you wouldn't be able to access it again.
If you encounter problems the next time, Raycon, please let support know. We'd like to pinpoint the failure point, and that might take a phone call or screen share.
Edited on Oct 5, 2011 at 10:09amAug '10
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If people didn't select every person on that list as preferable to Obama than they are nuttier than a Ron Paul/Ralph Nader love child!
The GOP nominee is going to be Mitt Romney, Rick Perry or Herman Cain. People on our side better get used to it and take whatever medication they need to pull the lever for whichever of them gets the nomination.
Another 4 years of Obama is not an option!
Edited on Oct 5, 2011 at 10:26amAug '10
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
Is your definition of a Wall Street banker anyone who works in the private sector? Because if it's not you better educate yourself on what a venture capitalist does...
Apr '11
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Chris Christie, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio aren't running for President. Next time maybe Justin Timberlake, Scarlett Johannson and Lady Gaga could be substituted for them.
Aug '10
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I thought the first question was strangely designed. I had to answer that I would vote for every one of the candidates rather than Obama, and it looks like most other people did. The way the question was structured, if that's the way you answered then all the other columns were irrelevant, and therefore masked the differences between the candidates. I'm guessing that some of the strange responses in there have to do with confusion over the question or the desire to indicate something about the candidate, which you couldn't do if you chose "I'd Vote for them over Obama". I find it hard to believe that roughly 1/3 of Ricochet members would vote for Obama over Gary Johnson, Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann, nearly 1/4 would vote for Obama over Newt, and 1/2 would vote for Obama over Ron Paul.
If the poll software had allowed, you should have made the Obama question a checkbox so that respondents could answer the first questions while still indicating that they would or would not vote for Obama irrespective of their choices in the first four columns.
May '11
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
Frozen Chosen: If people didn't select every person on that list as preferable to Obama than they are nuttier than a Ron Paul/Ralph Nader love child!
The GOP nominee is going to be Mitt Romney, Rick Perry or Herman Cain. People on our side better get used to it and take whatever medication they need to pull the lever for whichever of them gets the nomination.
Another 4 years of Obama is not an option! · Oct 5 at 10:25am
Edited on Oct 05 at 10:26 am
If Romney is our nominee, it shows we are still not serious. I will just write in Sarah Palin as my own private protest. I am from NY so I can do whatever. There are gobs of these idiots at occupy wall street that are canceling out my vote.
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
Dan Hanson: I find it hard to believe that roughly 1/3 of Ricochet members would vote for Obama over Gary Johnson, Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann, nearly 1/4 would vote for Obama over Newt, and 1/2 would vote for Obama over Ron Paul.
If the poll software had allowed, you should have made the Obama question a checkbox so that respondents could answer the first questions while still indicating that they would or would not vote for Obama irrespective of their choices in the first four columns. · Oct 5 at 11:06am
We've heard quite a bit of discussion about Members not voting for one potential nominee or another, if he or she was nominated. Some of this is likely posturing, but not all of it.
The question is designed to see if the threat is real: are some candidates so squishy, hard core, or offputting for you to vote for? Do they fail a single-issue test, if the issue's important to you?
Failing to support isn't the same as voting for Obama; but it probably suggests either staying home on election day or supporting a third party candidate.
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
In all fairness, The Logo agrees that there's some potential for over-counting the number who wouldn't support the candidate against Obama. The preferred set up would be to have a radio button that allows respondents to indicate yes/no support to Candidate X vs. Obama, and then to explore the reasons why that might be only for those few candidates who garnered a "no" vote.
The software doesn't allow for that, unfortunately.
Aug '10
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Sidehill Gouger
Frozen Chosen: If people didn't select every person on that list as preferable to Obama than they are nuttier than a Ron Paul/Ralph Nader love child!
The GOP nominee is going to be Mitt Romney, Rick Perry or Herman Cain. People on our side better get used to it and take whatever medication they need to pull the lever for whichever of them gets the nomination.
Another 4 years of Obama is not an option! · Oct 5 at 10:25am
Edited on Oct 05 at 10:26 am
If Romney is our nominee, it shows we are still not serious. I will just write in Sarah Palin as my own private protest. I am from NY so I can do whatever. There are gobs of these idiots at occupy wall street that are canceling out my vote. · Oct 5 at 11:07am
While I disagree with you about Romney I have to admit that I love your avatar name "sidehill gouger".
Top 3 for sure!
Edited on Oct 5, 2011 at 12:17pmFeb '11
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
The Logo
Failing to support isn't the same as voting for Obama; but it probably suggests either staying home on election day or supporting a third party candidate. · Oct 5 at 11:39am
Disagree on this point. It is effectively the same thing.
Sep '10
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Frozen Chosen
Is your definition of a Wall Street banker anyone who works in the private sector? Because if it's not you better educate yourself on what a venture capitalist does... · Oct 5 at 10:30am
I am will aware of what a venture capitalists do and I have no problem with them. Blaine Capital is a Wall Street firm. Romney was CEO. If you don't think Obama will use these two data points to crucify Romney your not in touch with reality. It is painfully obvious Obama plans on using class warfare as a strategy. Nominating an ex-Wall Street CEO makes his job that much easier.
Sep '10
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Frozen Chosen:
Another 4 years of Obama is not an option! · Oct 5 at 10:25am
Edited on Oct 05 at 10:26 am
I think Obama will get the Democratic nomination so he probably will be an option. The country will survive no matter who is elected. If the GOP decides to nominate another in a sickening long line of big government moderates losing what should be a sure win election in the long run may prove to be more beneficial for the party and country than winning.
Aug '10
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liberal jim
Frozen Chosen
I am will aware of what a venture capitalists do and I have no problem with them. Blaine Capital is a Wall Street firm. Romney was CEO. If you don't think Obama will use these two data points to crucify Romney your not in touch with reality. It is painfully obvious Obama plans on using class warfare as a strategy. Nominating an ex-Wall Street CEO makes his job that much easier. · Oct 5 at 12:42pm
Bain Capital is not a Wall Street firm in that it is not a hedge fund or a brokerage house (plus it's located in Boston, not NYC). It's a venture capital firm that funds start-up companies, i.e, creates jobs! Romney has a very compelling story to tell versus Obama. If the country falls for that class warfare bull that Obama is slinging then they can keep their no jobs socialist agenda.
I wish I were as sanguine as you about the country surviving another 4 yrs of Obama but I fear it will be the final blow in the death of our great nation as we know it.
Jan '11
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
The Logo:
About half of respondents wouldn't vote for either Jon Huntsman or Ron Paul even if each was the only alternative to our current president. 45% of you wouldn't vote for Huntsman, mostly because he's seen as not conservative enough...
That is rather depressing.
Though I can think of plenty of reasons to dislike or not want to support Huntsman, none of them have to do with his record, which is solidly conservative: pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, pro-market. With the exception of his acceptance of global warming*, I'm unaware of anywhere where he's substantively less conservative than his opponents.
Jun '10
Re: Center of Gravity Poll #2: Results
Tom Meyer
The Logo:
About half of respondents wouldn't vote for either Jon Huntsman or Ron Paul even if each was the only alternative to our current president. 45% of you wouldn't vote for Huntsman, mostly because he's seen as not conservative enough...
That is rather depressing.
Though I can think of plenty of reasons to dislike or not want to support Huntsman, none of them have to do with his record, which is solidly conservative: pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, pro-market. With the exception of his acceptance of global warming*, I'm unaware of anywhere where he's substantively less conservative than his opponents. · Oct 5 at 1:51pm
As The Logo said -- it may just be posturing.
It may be that Ricochet is not Center-Right but Left-of-Center-Right. Maybe Ricochet has been crashed by Leftists???? What else could explain this?
Your point about Huntsman is especially important because it shows that people aren't really looking at candidates' records. What are they looking at? Who are these people?
Such a large percentage of people really does call into question the methodology is my final guess.Something's wrong.