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One by one, your freedoms are being whittled away.  Congress declined to pass the Dream Act, so the President essentially instituted amnesty for illegals by executive order (on his way to Martha's Vineyard of course).  Congress has also declined to pass Card Check legislation that would do away with the secret ballot voting that allows employees to decide whether or not to unionize.  The right to vote via secret ballot is a right exercised by every American in local, state and federal elections, so it ought to be a "no brainer" when it comes to unionization, right?  Not anymore.  This is hope and change after all, and our job is to be good little subjects and do as we're told.  

The National Labor Relations Board has now taken it upon themselves to tread where Congress didn't, and to deny employees this basic "right to choose" whether or not they wish to unionize.  Don Loos at Big Government, explains it this way: 

 "Now, when employers make secrets deals with a union bosses agreeing to recognize a union without allowing his employees a secret ballot vote;  employees no longer have the right to force an NLRB secret ballot election and allow workers to decide if they want the union or not."

 In other words, you can be unionized without your consent, without even having a vote, and you will be expected to pay your dues and do what you're told.  In America.  

Just wondering something:  When a President signs an order that basically enacts legislation that the people's representatives declined to enact, basically circumventing the will of the people, … or when a President's appointees do the same thing on an issue as fundamental as secret ballot elections, do alarm bells go off in your head?  

(Photo from Biggovernment.com)

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Sisyphus
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Jul '10
Sisyphus

This all gets "repealed" January 2013. Probably before the Inauguration party clean ups are finished.

CoolHand
Joined
Dec '10
CoolHand

You're damned right they do.

They've been running at 105% of capacity since sometime in mid-2009.

We are so completely and utterly screwed.

So what if we win the election in 2012?  All the damage will be baked into the cake by then, and everyone knows that the Republicans are far to eunuch-like to go in and wholesale dismantle this stuff once it gets into the cogs of the machine.

What they do now will take a generation to undo, if it happens at all.

King Banaian

This is a very important development.  Does the now-imprisoned employee have any recourse in the courts?  Calling all legal minds...

Dave Carter
King Banaian: This is a very important development.  Does the now-imprisoned employee have any recourse in the courts?  Calling all legal minds... · Aug 30 at 8:04pm

King Banaian, according to the report on Big Government, and the NLRB's own report (pdf file), this ruling is retroactive.   I have a very, very bad feeling about this.  

wilber forge
Joined
Oct '10
wilber forge

 Re, Dave Carter... 

 Not to be droll or factual, none of these current activities of the NLRB fit with the original intent of the Board.  That aside, the concept of trust in the secret ballot have been compromised to no end.

Should the Electonic Voting machines have not been an example in and of themselves. The current proposal of E Voting online is the final nail in removing not only the concept of secret, but the sense of involement in the process.

Perhaps we will return to something where Purple fingers in primitive elections are a sense of pride and hanging chads are something real to see and touch.

This may be overly broad in statement, yet if something real is not accomplished in the voting process, just stick a fork in it and call it done.

As for myself, cannot live with that. Questions ?

etoiledunord
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Jun '10
etoiledunord
Larry Koler
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Jun '10
Larry Koler

CoolHand: You're damned right they do.

They've been running at 105% of capacity since sometime in mid-2009.

We are so completely and utterly screwed.

So what if we win the election in 2012?  All the damage will be baked into the cake by then, and everyone knows that the Republicans are far to eunuch-like to go in and wholesale dismantle this stuff once it gets into the cogs of the machine.

What they do now will take a generation to undo, if it happens at all.

True, true. We are in big trouble. 

etoiledunord: "Under my Thumb" is absolutely perfect as their theme song.Thanks for the humor.

Edited on Aug 31, 2011 at 12:56am
Kennedy Smith
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May '10
Kennedy Smith
Sisyphus: This all gets "repealed" January 2013. Probably before the Inauguration party clean ups are finished. · Aug 30 at 8:02pm

Executive orders are very fragile things.  Laws become entrenched, often with a filibuster preventing their repeal.  Orders can be reversed with an interoffice memo (though, in the case of the NRLB, it will take a year to get the majority back).

By going this route, and with Obamacare hanging by a judicial thread, Obama runs the very real risk of leaving a legacy consisting solely of crippling debt, a few dog parks and the Lily Ledbetter Act.

[There's a Machiavelli angle here, which I may reserve for a Member post]

~Paules
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Jun '10
~Paules

I'll continue to say so until I'm blue in the face:  you don't prune weeds; you eradicate them root, stem, and branch.  The next president must insist that the labor department be de-funded.  And for good measure we can raze the building and sell off the property lest a new administration sometime in the future attempt to resuscitate the monster.  We need to do the same to the entire raft of alphabet agencies retaining only state, defense, treasury, and justice.  Jimmy Carter promised to reduce the size of government.  Ronald Reagan promised to reduce the size of government.  Bill Clinton declared the era of big government over.  We know what pronouncements are worth.  Congress must use the power of the purse to choke the life out of the administrative super-state.  Either it chokes to death or we do.   

flownover
Joined
Aug '10
flownover

This is scary stuff. I just wrote my rep and told him that I didnt see much point in his office if he cant prevent things like this. And the comment that the GOP are too pansy to work hard enough to rip this out root and branch is just as disheartening. 

Sartre was close, Hell is Orrin Hatch explaining why this isn't so bad after all.


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Jan '11
Margaret Ball

Everything Not Forbidden Is Compulsory.

The alarm bells have been ringing for quite some time. This is only the latest demonstration that this administration considers itself above the law.

Keith Preston
Joined
May '10
Keith Preston

This is one of the few issues that actually gets me in a "torches and pitchforks" mood.

flownover
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Aug '10
flownover
Keith Preston: This is one of the few issues that actually gets me in a "torches and pitchforks" mood. · Aug 31 at 12:25pm

So you need (1) a castle to torch and (2) some elite bum to skewer.


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