After studying all weekend, our number two son announced at 11:00 last night, just before going to bed--or, rather, just before he intended to go to bed--I was already there--that to take his exam this morning he absolutely had to have a non-graphing calculator.  The calculator had to be--just had to be--sophisticated enough to handle sines, cosines, and logs (which, to be honest, I only dimly

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remembered from my own high school days), and yet, for some unknown reason, the teacher in the course had forbidden graphing calculators (this was new to me:  sometime in the last decade, apparently, somebody figured out how to make hand-held calculators display not only numerals but charts and graphs).  

The entire family then began ransacking drawers throughout the house, coming up, in not much more than five minutes, with the trove pictured here.  And this trove doesn't even count the calculator number three son admitted that he lost earlier this term, the two calculators I suddenly remembered I had in my junk drawer in the office, the built-in calculators every member of the family has on his cell phone, or the built in calculators every member of the family has on his computer.

The upshot?  Since all the calculators we found were either graphing calculators (forbidden) or incapable of handling logs (too unsophisticated), it became necessary for my wife to get to Staples when it opened at 8:00 this morning.  Since the last time I myself purchased a calculator was in business school, and it cost, as I recall, close to $100--this is one of the two now in my junk drawer at the office--I went to bed in a fury, supposing we'd have to shell out a like sum to get my darling but absent-minded boy through a single test.  The actual price of the calculator, it emerged this morning? Just over ten bucks.

Question:  What does this say about us?  Back when I was in high school, hand-held calculators turned up in the hands of only a very, very few kids--I can recall one who brought his to chemistry class each day, calculating moles and atomic numbers and whatnot with a speed that dazzled even our crusty old teacher--and these kids were without exception a) nerds, and, b) the children of wealthy families.  Early on, I feel certain, economic statistics should have shown the hand-held calculator as an improvement in American life--one of those breakthroughs that did so much to enhance our standard of living over the last several decades.  And as the price of calculators dropped, so the statistics should, I presume, have shown our standard of living continuing, in a little calculator-impelled manner, to rise.

But now?  What are we to make of these devices now that they've become so cheap and ubiquitous as to represent mere clutter?  Wouldn't we be at least a little better off with fewer of the darned things? At some very low but still not quite negligible level, hasn't the mass production of calculators actually begun to impoverish us?

Yes, I know.  I'm starting to sound almost like a socialist.  But it's true, isn't it, that there really is such a thing as too much stuff?

If the Ricochetoise would please inform me how this observation comports with the findings of Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman, I would be most grateful.

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David Knights

 I remember my first calculator in the mid-70s when I was in high school.  We were solidly middle class.  I went to public high school.  My dad bought me a TI series calculator and it cost $69.  I remember that to this day.  It didn't graph and had the red led display.

As for too much stuff; no we don't have too much stuff available, though with all the stuff we do have, it becomes more incumbent on the individual to control and simplify their own life.  How much more libertarian can you get than that?

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

No. Deflation is not a drag on society.

If a surplus of calculators represents a drag on society, that would mean that:

  • the surplus of pens I have lying around my apartment is a drag on society
  • the surplus of coffee mugs in my kitchen is a drag on society
  • the surplus of buttons in my sewing kit is a drag on society
  • "hoarders" should receive taxpayer support for their "disability"
  • etc

If YOU think you have too many calculators, then what is stopping you from donating the surplus calculators to Goodwill or The Salvation Army?

Do not blame the objects for the clutter in your home. Clutter is a choice.

Edited on May 31, 2011 at 9:52am
Southern Pessimist
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Southern Pessimist

I have a large slide rule from college that I am planning to give to my grandson some day. It will be so obsolete by then that he might think it was cool. To the point of your post I think Friedman would consider this an example of the inherent efficiency of markets. Individuals can have too much stuff but society as a whole grows in proportion to our stuff.

Talleyrand
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Talleyrand

You are not becoming a socialist Peter, as  in a free market you always have a matter of choice of products, including the right not to buy the latest models. Socialism leads us to proactively de-clutter buy queueing for purchases in the cold.

De-clutter and recycle these objects for scrap, and leave the guilt to your expense claims and tax returns.

I remember the calculators of the 1970's which cost $100 in those days (a week's wages or more) and were the size of a box of chocolates.My father, being an engineer, had to fight for calculator at BP that allowed the useful calculations of square roots. Such functions  were then considered expensive luxuries, along with interstate trunk phone calls, and a personal stenographer. ( For all grades of General Managers and above, each had a liveried chauffeur to drive their company car; so business priorities were properly focused then, as now, on status symbols)

I still miss Reverse Polish, and my HP 11C.

Did a similar exercise for mobile/cell phones. In my one person household, I found four old but still working, to donate to vicitims during recent floods. Mea Culpa

Edited on May 31, 2011 at 9:56am
Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

If I remember right, graphing calculators were either mandatory or strongly encouraged at my high school in the 90s. My big TI came in handy in Pre-Cal and Physics.

The problem with calculators is that they absolve you of needing to do anything other than remember the formulas (which was always my problem, anyway). Kids forget how to do division by hand.

As long as satellites remain in orbit and everyone can look up the formulas and calculations on their smartphones, we're fine. If we're ever hit by a severe solar storm, math textbooks will be a hot commodity.

You're right, Peter, that it's remarkable how quickly standalone calculators became nearly obsolete.

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Talleyrand: Socialism leads us to proactively de-clutter buy queueing for purchases in the cold.

I LOVE this line.  It's going straight into my rhetorical arsenal.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

I must admit that an article like this gives me paws.

Talleyrand
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Talleyrand
Pseudodionysius: I must admit that an article like this gives me paws. · May 31 at 9:55am

But aren't calculators the cat's whiskers P? Or is that crystal radio sets?

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy

FYI: Here's an article I really enjoy about how technological innovation inevitably leads to deflation. 

The Internet Devalues Everything It Touches

When the government inflicts inflation on us, it's trying to fight technological innovation.  It's yet another reason why the Fed is so insidious.

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Talleyrand

Pseudodionysius: I must admit that an article like this gives me paws. · May 31 at 9:55am

But aren't calculators the cat's whiskers P? Or is that crystal radio sets? · May 31 at 9:56am

The iPawd is where its at.


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Hang On

What, you didn't lend him your slide rule?

I remember my first calculator -- it could add, subtract, multiply, divide, and take square roots. Up to 9 digits. It was over $300 and was a gift. It was a Texas Instrument and made math and chemistry tests a breeze. Before long though, the tests just got longer as more students got calculators. I gave it to my brother about a year later and got one that had much more functionality and was about the same price.  Before long, they had them that you could program and for the same price. It was Moore's Law before your eyes.

Moore's Law is something to always keep in mind with technology. At first, the technology isn't very good (just like those first calculators). However, it made some aspect of life easier. Over some time period, the abilities will double. For computers it has been enormously short time period for doubling capabilities. 2 years I think. That's why I think much of the criticism on the right of things like electric cars is highly misplaced.

As for too much stuff, that's ridiculous.

Boymoose
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Boymoose

Iam looking @ my HP11c. This RPN bad boy is over 20 years old.  Im using it today to design my new wood burning oven. The ovens basic design is over 2000 years old.  

As Bob Walkenhorst said "some things are classics some things are just old".

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

 In about 1970 or 1971, I had a part-time on-campus job in the Geophysics Department at the University of Utah.  The big news that year was the acquisition  of two calculators that would allow the geophysicists to make field calculations of highly sophisticated mathematical calculations such as ("drum roll") square roots.  As I recall, each was about $400.

You can get a $3.00 calculator at WalMart that is infinitely more sophisticated.

What's the point?  Things have really changed (and I'm getting very old).

Misthiocracy
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Misthiocracy
Hang On: That's why I think much of the criticism on the right of things like electric cars is highly misplaced.

The criticism isn't about electric cars per se.  The criticism is about government funding of electric cars.

Just because one believes the government shouldn't do a thing, it does not follow that one believes the thing shouldn't be done at all.

The only thing that can slow down Moore's Law is government subsidies.

Edited on May 31, 2011 at 10:16am
Michael
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Michael

As a follow-on to Aaron's comment, I tutor High School math in the evenings, and most of the students I have had over the years have been incapable of doing simple arithmetic.  Since they are allowed to use calculators in class to work out sines and cosines, they use them to multiply and divide everything, such that some of them -- literally -- can no longer multiply 7x8.  They also trust the machines completely, and one student could not understand why a question on the exponential growth of a population of geese could not give an answer of 7.2 birds.

I wish teachers would allow students to give their answers in equation-form, without providing a final answer, until much later in the year.

KayBee
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KayBee

When I was in college in '82 or '83, I purchased a Sharp scientific calculator (non-graphing).  I still have it, I still use it, and IT STILL HAS THE ORIGINAL BATTERY!

Now, can we get more power sources like that?

Tripedis Canis
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Tripedis Canis

What does this say about us? Weeelllllll . . .

  • We take these marvels of technology so matter-of-factly that when we can't lay hand to one immediately, it is no great consequence to go get another. How many of your calculators had, or could have been, purchased in a grocery store?
  • Our demand for greater convenience has made these single purpose devices almost obsolete. I have a calculator on my cell phone with the functions you mentioned. But, since it is also a communications device, it would be ineligible for test taking. The only place you would find a single purpose, non-graphing calculator capable of trig functions is in a high school classroom.
  • Are we not rich with the places to keep all this clutter? And their batteries?

I marvel at Moore's Law. The primary driver behind it is a free and open consumer society. It does not apply anywhere else. A surfeit of calculators is a small price to pay.

Southern Pessimist
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Southern Pessimist

To expand on your question about having too much stuff. About 7 or 8 years ago my wife and I agreed that whenever we purchased a durable good such as a TV or clothes we would give away a similar item. We no longer had the room to do otherwise, and it has worked out fairly well. My wife still has 200 pairs of shoes and Goodwill knows us by name.

Jim Chase
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Jim Chase

I purchased my HP48S around 1991 (graphing) when I realized it had that feature, as well as the ability to plug in customized formulas.  I still use it now, along with my 11C, for much simpler computations than was required for my engineering courses.

As for the simple, grocery-aisle calculators, you would be amazed at just what marvelous tools those are for entertaining young children in the car for long rides. 

Edited on May 31, 2011 at 10:43am

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david foster

I'm currently working on a review of "Father, Son, & Co," the autobiography of long-time IBM CEO Tom Watson Jr....it's interesting to look at the prices of some of the historical products he mentions. IBM's first production product that used electronics was the 603 Electronic Multiplier, announced in late 1946. The 603 performed one simple function: read two numbers from a punched card, multiply them together, and punch the product back in the same card. It did this at a constant rate of 100 cards per minute, which was 5-10 times the speed of the previous electromechanical multiplier.

The 603 was available for a rental price of $350/month, which according to the BLS inflation calculator would be about $4000/month in today's money...or a purchase-price equivalent of perhaps $150000. One hundred of these machines were leased out, and the upgraded version "sold" by the thousands.


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