John Marzan · Apr 21, 2011 at 9:38am

From Shark-Tank's Javier Manjarres

 Breitbart says his book  is about waking up more people, and to tell these people “that the way to defeat an Obama, who is defeatable, who is a failed President is not to defeat Obama, it’s to aim the targets at the mainstream media- they are the ones that got this guy elected.” 

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Xennady

First, thanks for the link.

Second, just tell people what Obama has said, and you'll be attacking both him and the mainstream media that put him in office.

Make the media defend Obama's indefensible actions and policies, which they will if those are attacked, and both will be damaged.

So...I think I agree.

Edited on Apr 21, 2011 at 3:22am
River
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River

Yes. What was once a relatively responsible media became The Regime Media, and largely engineered this travesty of presidency. When the truth eventually comes out there will be hell to pay.

raycon
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raycon

This is a strategy I can enthusiastically support.  Not only can we salivate at the possibility of defeating the guy who is making Jimmy Carter look like the Abraham Lincoln of the 20th century, we can focus all our energies on the American Axis of Evil and take out the Democrats entirely .

Go for it !!!!!!

Edited on Apr 21, 2011 at 5:08am
Lance
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Lance

How does this differ from what the approach has been in the past?  Is Breitbart advocating that the candidate target the MSM directly?  More and more, the folks who are inclined to pay attention and care about such things are already turning away from the MSM and towards the myriad of outlets that speak to them and reflect the perpesctives of their particular ideological demographics and community.  


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Hang On

Frankly, Breitbart sounds nuts. He does great videos, but he rants like a lunatic.

Obama is vulnerable and will be vulnerable because of the economy. Stuff like this makes those on the right seem like lunatics.

The MSM are what they are. Attacking them gets you nothing. Competing with them with alternative media sources is now possible and gets you alot, not least of all causing them to go bankrupt. But frankly, shut up with all the whining about the MSM.

John Marzan
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John Marzan

the GOPTEAPARTY needs to do two things:

1) Neutralize Obama's surrogates in the media and popular culture

2) Nominate and "acceptable alternative" to Obama.

Chazzy Star
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Team Zissou
Hang On:  The MSM are what they are. Attacking them gets you nothing. Competing with them with alternative media sources is now possible and gets you alot, not least of all causing them to go bankrupt. But frankly, shut up with all the whining about the MSM. · Apr 21 at 6:43am

I agree, Hang On.  It makes Cons look thin-skinned.  I never liked when Palin whined about the media either.  Don't talk tough conservative talk then whine about unfair treatment. 

Lady Bertrum
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Lady Bertrum

 I love Breitbart and agree with many of his arguments; I just wish he were more skilled in how he approached his goals.  The media definately believes in the "if you're attacked hit back twice as hard' approach to their competitiors/enemies.  They've targeted Breitbart and pretty relentlessly gone after him and his allies.  He should have been prepared for this, but he wasn't.  His own mistakes have tripped him up as well.  In fact, you could say he's the Sarah Palin of new media.

Conservatives need to think about how we can support and defend his type of talent while at the same time demand more from it.  Of course, he's the one taking the risk and the heat.  The David Brooks/David Frums of the world are only too happy to sit back and let that happen, poo-pooing his effectiveness, and feeling superior about their own *nuance*.  While disagreeing with them, I respect Brooks and Frum for their intellect but not for their game/heart.  I love Breitbart's heart; I bought his book.  I didn't buy Brook's new book, though.

Yeah...ok.
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Yeah...ok.

Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.

Soon enough the skeletons in the Obama closet will be uncovered and the MSM will join the feeding frenzy. If the main skeleton is the stupid birth certificate then we just repeat the Clinton/Monica exercise but (I hope) other skeletons could produce a Nixon/Watergate outcome.

Lady Bertrum
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Lady Bertrum

 Also, for those of you saying stop the whining, I want to point out the Breitbart serves a surrogate purpose.  He bitches about the media so the candidates don't have to.  He draws attention to their hypocrisy and double standards so Mitt Romney and Mitch Daniels can appear presidential.  While there is quite a bit of rolling around in mud with pigs, there is also a counter-narratiave.  And that is important.

Franco
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Franco

Hang On: Frankly, Breitbart sounds nuts. He does great videos, but he rants like a lunatic.

Obama is vulnerable and will be vulnerable because of the economy. Stuff like this makes those on the right seem like lunatics.

The MSM are what they are. Attacking them gets you nothing. Competing with them with alternative media sources is now possible and gets you alot, not least of all causing them to go bankrupt. But frankly, shut up with all the whining about the MSM. · Apr 21 at 6:43am

I disagree. Watch this. I would have punched this guy on air. And Brietbart is responsible for a large part of the alternative media.

Larry Koler
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Larry Koler

Breitbart is a genius. The Democrat-Media Complex is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. As the MSM gets smaller it seems that the ones still there are more stridently leftist than ever. The good news is that this cabal (or Complex) is being cordoned off and identified more clearly each day. But, they still wield enormous influence and power. 

The other thing that Breitbart has right is the racist angle. He is one of the few who will deal with the fact that racism is used as a trump card all the time by the Complex. This racialism is an evil tactic and it needs to be handled by someone. It sure won't be here at Ricochet, that's for sure. 

EJHill
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EJHill
Hang On: Frankly, Breitbart sounds nuts. He does great videos, but he rants like a lunatic.

He needs cool lessons from his father-in-law.

etoiledunord
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etoiledunord

Hang On: Frankly, Breitbart sounds nuts. He does great videos, but he rants like a lunatic.....

 Apr 21 at 6:43am

It's called passion. And people don't fear passion. They love it. How do you think Ted Kennedy got elected over and over again? He had the name, but that's not everything. Was it because he was smart? No. Hardly. Because he was honest? Heavens no. He was passionate, and not afraid of anything. That's Breibart's gift too. That, and being on the side of the angels, unlike Kennedy.

River
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River

Andrew Breitbart is as crazy - but no more crazy - than Tom Paine, Patrick Henry ("Give me liberty, or give me death!"), or Davy Crockett ("You all can go to hell! I'm going to Texas!"), who stood up to the Jackson pro-slavery, kill-all-the Indians juggernaut of the 1830's.

Breitbart is a fearless man of conscience. Have you seen him stand before angry 'progressive' crowds and speak his mind, accusing them of trying to stifle free speech? He's done that a number of times, that I've seen. His courage is exceptional. He doesn't have big money or influence around or behind him. If Soros or Obummer could bump him off without being noticed, Breitbart would be gone, and he knows it.

He has been the foremost advocate of James O'Keefe who produced the Acorn and Planned Parenthood videotapes. Has he made some mistakes? Yes. So would I and so would you if you were exposed on the front lines in the heat of battle the way he is.

Franco
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Franco

Brietbart understands the left, how they think and what they are prepared to do. They hate him for it. Too many on our side are stupid and naive when it comes to what is really going down in the media in this country. I challenge people here to watch the link in my comment above. The way Bashir goes after Brietbart is despicable. Brietbart gets in a few solid punches of his own towards the end.

Whoever watches this show has to be a rabid leftwing drone anyway. How any objective observer couldn't determine that this was a crass ambush interview. The damage this does to MSNBC and Bashir is more than any "damage" done to Breitbart, 

 BTW I'm buying the book now. That interview pushed me over the edge.

Edited on Apr 21, 2011 at 10:15am

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Hang On

etoiledunord

Hang On: Frankly, Breitbart sounds nuts. He does great videos, but he rants like a lunatic.....

 Apr 21 at 6:43am

It's called passion. And people don't fear passion. They love it. How do you think Ted Kennedy got elected over and over again? He had the name, but that's not everything. Was it because he was smart? No. Hardly. Because he was honest? Heavens no. He was passionate, and not afraid of anything. That's Breibart's gift too. That, and being on the side of the angels, unlike Kennedy. · Apr 21 at 10:00am

Passion works with bases. It drives everybody else off. Ted Kennedy kept getting re-elected because he kept the state of Massachusetts rolling in federal money. He was extremely good at bringing home the bacon. Both John and Ted Kennedy were also extremely good at constituent services -- getting granny her social security check on time, jumping the line on getting a passport when you needed it fast, etc. -- when members of Congress were not noted for such things. It makes you friends in unlikely places.

Ken Sweeney
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Ken Sweeney

NO.  We need to fight Obama's record and actions directly and with force.  The Republicans will be painted as racists for just running a candidate against Obama.

John Marzan
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John Marzan

Hang On:

The MSM are what they are. Attacking them gets you nothing. Competing with them with alternative media sources is now possible and gets you alot, not least of all causing them to go bankrupt. But frankly, shut up with all the whining about the MSM. · Apr 21 at 6:43am

I'm not interested in whining. I want to neutralize Obama's surrogates in the media.

Leslie Watkins
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Leslie Watkins
River: He has been the foremost advocate of James O'Keefe who produced the Acorn and Planned Parenthood videotapes.  · Apr 21 at 10:01am

He's also taken O'Keefe to task, for example, back last fall in response to O'Keefe's attempt to humiliate CNN correspondent Abbie Boudreau. Breitbart said he thought O'Keefe had some explaining to do to his supporters. That's acting on principle in my book. He doesn't rant. He's a righteous dude.


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