OK, he's been dead for 147 years, but it's a start. What do you think? Will it be a stirringly beautiful tribute or as engaging as live action five dollar bill? 

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Douglas
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Douglas

Apparently you missed the memo, Yeti. The Democrats claim him as one of their own, because he "was really a progressive". You see, the slave owning Democrats were really Republicans, and Lincoln's Republicans were really Democrats. At least that's what Liberals tell me everytime the guy's name is brought up.

Eeyore
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Eeyore

The Southerners will all be dumbasses, the Northerners will all be noble. As the camera pans back from the casket at Lincoln's funeral, strings will swell beneath a montage of the fight of the freed slaves for equality, intercut back and forth with scenes from the film. These will include things like Birth of a Nation, Selma, the Birmingham school desegregation, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and, of course, at the full orchestral crescendo, there will appear a thinly-veiled direct link between Mr. Lincoln and...Teh One.

Edited on September 14, 2012 at 7:44am
Rob in N.CA
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Rob in N.CA

Some how I think kids that see this movie are going to be disappointed and confused that he's not slaying vampires.. However this movie looks promising.. I might go see it..  However, I'll keep my expectations low...

James Lileks

You know someone wrote  script that portrayed Lincoln as a a gay, disabled man who confronted racism and was victimized by lax gun laws. Hope this movie is different. 

Robert Lux
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Robert Lux

Liberal adulation of Lincoln consists simply in their seeing in the man a more powerful will over the forces of slavery: i.e., they do not adulate Lincoln because they see slavery as wrong by nature.  This is nicely captured in the early Progressives -- it's strongly intimated (as I recall) in Jane Addams's hagiographic chapter on Lincoln in Twenty Years at Hull House.  

Any argument from nature for today's liberals defeats their own grounds for propagating the cause of radical autonomy (SSM, etc.), such autonomy being integral to the growth of the state. The smarter liberals, at least, are aware of this -- and the smarter liberals, of course, are the arbiters of all liberal pieties. 

Robert Lux
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Robert Lux

Robert Lux: Liberal adulation of Lincoln consists simply in their seeing in the man a more powerful will over the forces of slavery: i.e., they do not adulate Lincoln because they see slavery as wrongby nature.  This is nicely captured in the early Progressives -- it's strongly intimated (as I recall) in Jane Addams's hagiographic chapter on Lincoln in Twenty Years at Hull House.  

Any argument from nature for today's liberals defeats their own grounds for propagating the cause of radical autonomy (SSM, etc.), such autonomy being integral to the growth of the state. The smarter liberals, at least, are aware of this -- and the smarter liberals, of course, are the arbiters of all liberal pieties.  · 2 minutes ago

Which of course is my round-about way of saying that I'm fairly certain the movie is going to be terribly flawed and likely a vehicle for liberal propaganda.  

S. G. Walsh
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S. G. Walsh

I had only seen Schindler's List about two years ago. At the time I was expecting another piece of intriguing liberal tripe made to draw a parallel between Nazis and modern conservatives. 

I was wrong. Schindler's List is a movie I adore for its complete story telling. I know not how accurate the story was in its particulars, but it was at least a fair, brutal, and at times beautifully touching rendering of a historical moment. Not even the Soviets are spared scrutiny (that scene being the cherry on the sundae).

Come November, I will walk into the theater with high expectations. Perhaps they will be dashed, but tis' better to have loved and lost, dear friends.

Evan Pokroy
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Evan Pokroy

Wait. What was Abraham Lincoln:Vampire Hunter about? 

Stephen Dawson
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Stephen Dawson

I predict that the movie will be between 165 and 195 minutes long, and not once in that time will the word 'Republican' be uttered or appear on screen.

Steven M.
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Steven M.

I don't trust Speilberg as a storyteller or filmmaker anymore, but I would love to be proved wrong. 

Lewis will be great as always, but I wish he had a directer like PT Anderson working with him on this. Or even Speilberg in his prime. 

Has anyone read the Doris Kearns Goodwin book this script was based on?


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RobininIthaca

Isn't this the book that got her busted as a plagiarist?

Steven M.: I don't trust Speilberg as a storyteller or filmmaker anymore, but I would love to be proved wrong. 

Lewis will be great as always, but I wish he had a directer like PT Anderson working with him on this. Or even Speilberg in his prime. 

Has anyone read the Doris Kearns Goodwin book this script was based on? · 2 minutes ago


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RobininIthaca

Thank you for the brief summary!  LOL

Robert Lux

 

Which of course is my round-about way of saying that I'm fairly certain the movie is going to be terribly flawed and likely a vehicle for liberal propaganda.   · 6 hours ago

Steven M.
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Steven M.

She got busted for a book on the Roosevelts I think, and then it turned out she plagiarized in some of her other books too.

Redneck Desi
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Redneck Desi

Lighten up folks! Give me the John Williams score, the Speilberg heart tugs (Saving Private Ryan anyone), a brooding Lincoln, and Daniel Day-Lewis. I really hope he does it right.

Brian Watt
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Brian Watt
Redneck Desi: Lighten up folks! Give me the John Williams score, the Speilberg heart tugs (Saving Private Ryan anyone), a brooding Lincoln, and Daniel Day-Lewis. I really hope he does it right. · 1 minute ago

Is lighten up a racist expression?

Charlotte
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Charlotte

I work at Ford's Theatre. My coworkers and I, who have been buzzing about this movie for months, are all of the same opinion: Can. Not. Wait.

Larry Koler
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Larry Koler

I wonder why it has taken so long for this subject to be taken up.

I was hoping for a long form series of at least 6 parts on TV  --  and that would cover his whole life eventually. But for a single long movie this might be good.

Daniel Day Lewis looks like a good choice as Lincoln. 

At first I was disappointed that they chose to focus just on the Emancipation Proclamation but, as I think about it just now, this point in the historical narrative of our country is the moral fulcrum point about which our country revolved in its first century. Slavery is what the war was about, slavery is what got Lincoln elected, slavery made a mockery of the Declaration of Independence. It was also a holdover from the European history that we come from, especially in the use of Africans for slaves. Slavery was (and is) a fundamental deformity of mankind. America was chosen by God to work out a moral understanding of this bestial impulse. 

Germany and WWII worked on the flaw of race hatred: anti-Semitism. And Russia worked on the greatest slavery issue in recent history: The Totalitarian Project.

Umbra Fractus
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Umbra Fractus

I once told a friend that a hagiography of Thurgood Marshall might, in the long run, be good for conservatism because it would show how far the NAACP had fallen since the 50's and 60's. I can definitely see some statist script writer thinking the same thing about Lincoln and the GOP.

Spin
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Ken Owsley

It'll be a great film, accurate in a broad sense, but not in a detailed sense (I can imagine a bunch of us here saying during the film "That's not exactly what he said!").  But it's Daniel Day Lewis, so it's going to be awesome!

Vic Sage
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Vic Sage

I'd trust the movie more if our Rob had written the screenplay: Abe returns to Springfield and wins the family bar in a wrestling match.


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