"Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Diane Ellis, Ed. ·
Oct 20, 2011 at 1:59pm
This showed up in my mailbox today. Guess I know how I'll be voting on Prop D...
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Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Wow. If I was down in SF County, I'd have a similar reaction. Luckily I'm up here in this bastion of conservative politics, Sonoma County.
Prop D, by my reading, doesn't even seem too harsh a reform to pensions.
May '10
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Straightforward grown-up proposal. If approved, Proposition D will:
Proposition D does not address how the city handles health care for retired workers. According to Adachi, "[Health care retirement benefits and pension reform] really are two separate problems and they should be dealt with separately both for political and practical reasons."
Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Thanks! Good summary, and common sense, which is of course why San Francisco progressives are against it.
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Trace Urdan: Straightforward grown-up proposal. If approved, Proposition D will:
I'm a big fan of Jeff Adachi and will be supporting him in the upcoming mayoral race (even though he's a Dem!). Trace, do you know how Prop D differs from Prop B which Adachi sponsored in last year's election?
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
And while we're on the topic of San Francisco, we just had an earthquake! Big, but not huge.
Edit: Only a 3.9
Edited on Oct 20, 2011 at 3:27pmMay '10
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Diane Ellis, Ed.
I'm a big fan of Jeff Adachi and will be supporting him in the upcoming mayoral race (even though he's a Dem!). Trace, do you know how Prop D differs from Prop B which Adachi sponsored in last year's election? · Oct 20 at 2:41pm
Prop B attempted to make city workers pay for health care. This measure steers clear of that.
Most city employees currently pay 7.5%. Old Prop B attempted to raise that to 9% for some workers -- this does not. This one also has the progressive measure based on salary which the other did not have. And the crowd pleaser about preventing "pension spiking."
Jul '10
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
That 4.2 was under the Berkeley fault. Very scary.
Dec '10
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Vote NO on C and NO on D. Then let the City declare bankruptcy and revoke all of its pension obligations. (I only advocate this because it seems to be what the public employee unions want, given their intransigence.)
Aug '10
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
I have a very simple but sufficient heuristic for voting on ballot initiatives. I look to see what the public sector unions have endorsed in the pro/con/rebuttal-to-pro/rebuttal-to-con voter guide and then I vote the other way. I don't even need to actually read the arguments (which are more talking points than candid analysis), rather it's enough to see how the stakeholders line up.
Who? Whom?
Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
anon_academic: I look to see what the public sector unions have endorsed ... and then I vote the other way.
Who? Whom? · Oct 20 at 3:40pm
Exactly. Diane didn't say, and until Trace Urdan had to spoil it by being so informative and goo-goo and all, I was going to say that I was agin it, too, even though I didn't know what it was about (and am a continent away from it).
Edited on Oct 20, 2011 at 4:04pmRe: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Grendel
anon_academic: I look to see what the public sector unions have endorsed ... and then I vote the other way.
Who? Whom? · Oct 20 at 3:40pm
Exactly. Diane didn't say, and until Trace Urdan had to spoil it by being so informative and goo-goo and all, I was going to say that I was agin it, too, even though I didn't know what it was about (and am a continent away from it). · Oct 20 at 4:03pm
Edited on Oct 20 at 04:04 pm
Why would you be against it? The public sector unions are against it. Ergo I am for it.
Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
That's one thing I love about SF politics (the only thing?) is that they make it so easy to vote. I normally go by the pink LGBTQ...RSTUVWXYZ Voter Guide hanging on my door. The bigger the "NO!!!!!" next to a proposition the more eager I am to vote for it. Frankly, I don't even have to know what it is.
I love how they included a random picture of Sarah Palin.
Anyone find it interesting that those shadowy "special interests pushing to repeal healthcare reform" appear to be doctors and/or nurses?
Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Stuart Creque,
It's not as if my vote matters in SF, at least when it comes to moronic budget proposals. Although, on certain issues there seems to be a sensible silent majority can emerge. I was heartened a few years ago when SF defeated a cigarette tax hike. I suppose the working class folk and the hipster faction canceled out the nannies.
Even though I live here I'm actually all in favor of San Francisco's right to be the shining example of leftism in action. I see that clarity as for the greater good. I enjoy this city, but I'm prepared to bail if things get too bad.
Oct '10
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Heh, would it violate the CoC if I say "filthy public employee unions"? Those people are disgusting. Corporations are nothing compared to public unions when it comes to greed. Nothing!
Oct '10
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What's fascinating for me this election cycle is prop E. If that passes, then in theory, the SF Board of Supervisors could put a proposition on the ballot to "reform" pensions--possibly in response to a pension reform proposition that had been put on the ballot by signature, as happened with the Prop C / Prop D pair up this cycle--then, three years later, repeal the "reform" proposition with a 2/3 vote by the board, thereby restoring those infamous 100k pensions.
(Since Prop E would only apply to laws enacted after Jan 1 2012, the board won't be able to take this approach with Prop C, assuming it passes; still, the possibilities have got to sound intriguing to city insiders.)
If only Silicon Valley weren't such a cultural wasteland, I'd move there faster than you can say "street parking."
Apr '11
Re: "Because San Francisco Is NO Tea Party Town"
Diane Ellis, Ed.
Grendel
anon_academic: I look to see what the public sector unions have endorsed ... and then I vote the other way.
Who? Whom? · Oct 20 at 3:40pm
Exactly. Diane didn't say, and until Trace Urdan had to spoil it by being so informative and goo-goo and all, I was going to say that I was agin it, too, even though I didn't know what it was about (and am a continent away from it). · Oct 20 at 4:03pm
Edited on Oct 20 at 04:04 pm
Why would you be against it? The public sector unions are against it. Ergo I am for it. · Oct 20 at 4:14pm
Never mind. Soo-rr-eee!