Barack And Joe's Excellent Adventure
Joe Biden spoke at a fundraiser last night. He came up with many new Bidenisms. But this one is my favorite, in reference to the Navy Seal operation that killed Bin Laden:
“You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan. Never knowing for certain. We never had more than a 48 percent probability that he was there.”
I'm a big fan of the Bin Laden operation and think it was plenty audacious. And I'm pleased that President Obama ordered the Navy Seals to do it (although I'd hope any President would do the same given the high probability of success and the nature of the target). But can you find a more audacious plan than this in the last 500 years? I think you might be able to find a few dozen from World War II alone, right?
I can't help but find Biden charming but he's messing up how you brag about your own administration. Let other people hype your accomplishments while you sound steadfast and humble. Bragging about your exploits and going over the top actually diminishes your accomplishments.
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Apr '11
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The Doolittle raid.
The amphibious landing at Inchon.
Entebbe.
First three that come to mind.
Jun '10
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what was especially "audacious" about it? Apart from the target being high value it was not particularly bold. It was a no-brainer and only took "guts" because of Obama's contempt for the military. GWB would not have blinked.
Sep '11
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How 'bout raiding Whitehaven and Kirkcudbright in 1778 (John Paul Jones)?
How 'bout the Doolittle Raid?
How 'bout the Battle of Inchon?
Millions of Americans bow in prayer every day for the safekeeping of Barack Obama.
Because if anything happens to him, Joe's next in line.
Jan '11
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Mollie ... shhhh ...
Let Biden be Biden!
Jun '10
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billy: The Doolittle raid.
The amphibious landing at Inchon.
Entebbe.
First three that come to mind.
...and the Obama re-election, if it works. (You can be sure there are lots of moving parts, dangerous tricks, and risk-taking in that plan.)
Apr '11
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I only wonder why it took so long to launch the attack. Back in 2008, Joe Biden said he knew where Osama Bin Laden was, unlike those stupid Republicans. Did it take him three years to convince the president to act?
Apr '11
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Btw, Speaking of stupidity of Bidenesque proportions, I'm sure everyone has seen this story in TheDC.
Aug '10
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The Great Raid
The Raid at Son Tay
Operation El Dorado Canyan
I find it particularly troubling that Pres Obama and VP Biden so forcefully claim ownership of the Osama Raid now despite Pres Obama dithering for 16 hours before making the 'Go' decision.
Compare with Pres Reagan and his 'Go' command to intercept the plane carrying the terrorists responsible for the Achille Lauro Hijacking. That decision occurred over minutes.
Feb '11
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I seriously doubt if Biden has enough familiarity with the past 500 years of military history, even at a superficial level, to make such an assertion with any meaningfulness.
Jun '10
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A. Grant outflanks Vicksburg.
B. The US Navy surprises the Japanese at Midway.
C. Lee divides his forces at Chancellorsville
D. The retreat of the Nez Perce (still taught at West Point).
E. The Battle of Brecourt Manor (also still taught at West point)
F. Rorke's Drift
G. US bushwhacks Admiral Yamamoto at Rabul (first airborne assassination in history).
H. Skorzany's rescue of Mussolini
I. The raid on Taranto Harbor (a precursor to Pearl Harbor).
J. The Battle of Ascalon (1200 Christian knights defeat an army of 50K Egyptians, AD 1099)
K. The Six Day War
L. German airborne assault of Crete (May 1941)
M. Agincourt, Crecy, and Poitiers
To name just a few.
Mar '11
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The Battle of Stony Point. A heavily fortified position surrounded by water on three sides, taken by bayonets affixed to unloaded muskets.
The Vicksburg Campaign. Grant severs his own lines of communication, despite his friend General Sherman telling him that the plan was too daring, and that the Confederates "would manuver for a year to put you into the position that you propose to put yourself."
Sherman's March to the Sea. Sherman turns "daring" up to eleven.
Feb '12
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I would like our nominee to tap Newt as his VP candidate, and then have the vice-presidential debate be on world or American history. This is not because I'd love to hear Newt's erudition on the topic. I just want to see him point, pound the podium, turn tomato red, and just go off on Biden, before finally breaking into a swearing fit.
May '10
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The most audacious and successful covert operation was the branding of the first black president, and his candidate wife, as racists in order to win the South Carolina primary.
This, of course, led to our first anti-American president...
May '10
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KC Mulville: Mollie ... shhhh ...
Let Biden be Biden! · 2 hours ago
Nice to see Joe get behind the Boss after he was so in favor of the whole operation. Nice going, Joe. What a maroon.
Edited on March 20, 2012 at 4:49pmMay '10
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Sorry Mollie, I just can't see being charmed by consistent buffoonery when the buffoon is dangerously close to becoming the Commander in Chief.
Apr '11
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Does Ol' Joe have a plate in his head? What about Pointe du Hoc?
Jul '11
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Calling on EJHill! Please produce a depiction of Obama's hopefully audacious whacking of Bin Laden. Recommend using the picture of that one general who crossed that one river that one time to win something important:
-E
Jun '10
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What a foolish, self-absorbed little man.
Killing Bin Laden that night was important, and our Seals were fantastic. Had he not been there, it would not have been a strategic defeat. We'd have kept looking.
Now consider D-Day. At stake: Saving Western Europe (and probably Western civilization). Weather: marginal at best. Men involved: hundreds of thousands (my father among them). Consequences of failure: catastrophic. Target: miles of open beaches above which the enemy controlled the high ground. Among the sure things: several thousand Americans, British, and Canadian young men would die.
I'm sorry, but Joe Biden is an ass, a man with no sense of history, and a blow-hard. He embarrasses me and dishonors those who've taken the big risks.
Edited on March 20, 2012 at 5:57pmMar '11
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So far I've only seen one person mention the most obvious parallel, the shootdown of Yamamoto in 1943, the guy who planned a sneak attack that killed a couple thousand Americans.
Aug '10
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They didn't have to go to the President to get permission. I am biased, but my Reagan example is closer.