Continuing on our Thursday theme of Herman Cain and 9-9-9, take a look at some of the nice things Gov. Haley Barbour had to say about Candidate Cain on Laura Ingraham's show today.

If this election is where it ought to be — and that is a referendum on how President Obama is doing — Republicans are going to win. If Herman Cain is our nominee running against Barack Obama, I think he’ll sweep the South.

...Herman Cain has attracted a very good following. I think if [the election] were today, my wife would vote for Herman Cain.

One of my sons — I have grown children, you know — from the first day said, ‘Dad, do you know Herman Cain?’ I said, ‘Sure, I’ve known him since I was chairman [of the Republican National Committee].’ He said, ‘Man, I like him, I like what he says.’

And that is one of [Cain's] great strengths. He is likable. He does not give you the impression that he is full of himself, but rather than he is a straight-talkin’ person who … calls it like he sees them. He’s not trying to sugar coat anything and at the same time he is not trying to be shrill and a chest beater. He’s a straight talker and I think that makes him very, very attractive to people.

So not quite a full-fledged endorsement from the Governor, but when one of the greatest political strategists of our time says he believes Herman Cain has what it takes to sweep the South, and offers up his wife's support for the man -- that's something I'm inclined to take seriously.

(h/t Daily Caller)

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katievs
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katievs

To me it sounds a little like damning with faint praise.  No, not damning.  More like patting on the back in place of actually endorsing.

If such as Ryan and Barbour do actually endorse him, that will make a big difference to me.  But I can't see it happening.

Edited on Oct 13, 2011 at 6:28pm
Diane Ellis, Ed.

katievs: To me it sounds a little like damning with faint praise.  No, not damning.  More like patting on the back in place of actually endorsing.

If such as Ryan and Barbour do actually endorse him, that will make a big difference to me. · Oct 13 at 6:26pm

It sounded to me like Barbour was still hoping that Perry would swing some sort of a comeback, though he didn't say so outright.

I'm with you in that I'm nervous about Cain, but if he managed to secure endorsements from folks like Ryan or Rubio or Daniels or Barbour, that would go a long way in allaying my anxiety.

Capt. Aubrey
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Capt. Aubrey

Paul Ryan on CNBC this week said his position as head of whatever the organization that raises money before the nominee is named said he was not allowed to endorse anyone. Convenient for him. I take Barbour at his word probably because I agree with him about Cain's genuine-ness and likability and the uniqueness of those qualities in this race.

Freeven
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Freeven

Diane Ellis, Ed.

It sounded to me like Barbour was still hoping that Perry would swing some sort of a comeback, though he didn't say so outright.

I'm with you in that I'm nervous about Cain, but if he managed to secure endorsements from folks like Ryan or Rubio or Daniels or Barbour, that would go a long way in allaying my anxiety. · Oct 13 at 6:30pm

This is my read and thinking also. But even in the absence of full endorsements, just having economic heavyweights like Ryan and Laffer praise Cain's tax reform ideas eases my mind about him.

Fricosis Guy
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Fricosis Guy

What Ryan and Laffer recognize is that 9-9-9 changes the terms of the debate.  I have my doubts about the plan per se, but its simplicity gets people back to discussing first principles,  We can win on those hills.

Terrell David
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Terrell David

The political and media endorsements for Cain will be hindered because nobody wants to look like a fool and Romney has a cajillion dollar war chest. 

Cain's view since the beginning has been that money and influence will not win this election in 2012.  The American people will win this election much like the elections in 2010.

We shall see.  Cain's certainly been correct in explaining his "intensity" and "name id" in predicting his strong run.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson

Art Laffer, Paul Ryan, and Haley Barbour's Wife walk into a bar.  "We don't serve your kind here," says the bartender.  "Always stirring up trouble with your economic sense."

Sense like this.

David Williamson
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Diane Ellis, Ed.

So not quite a full-fledged endorsement from the Governor, but when one of the greatest political strategists of our time says he believes Herman Cain has what it takes to sweep the South, and offers up his wife's support for the man -- that's something I'm inclined to take seriously.

I was for Mr Cain before, but I am glad these people agree with me -- I respect em all.

David Williamson
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David Williamson
Mark Wilson: Art Laffer, Paul Ryan, and Haley Barbour's Wife walk into a bar.  "We don't serve your kind here," says the bartender.  "Always stirring up trouble with your economic sense."

We don't serve Neutrinos in here.

A Neutrino walks into a bar.

Old joke.

Edited on Oct 13, 2011 at 9:00pm

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Viator

There is an interesting spin at work with Herman Cain. His private sector experience is discounted or dismissed but his lack of public sector experience is emphasized (even though he worked at times for the Defense Department and the Federal Reserve). Cain's performance throughout his career has resulted in one success after another but Cain's many successes are without value. Romney's governance of Massachusetts is regarded as a model to be emulated and valued. Cain couldn't face Putin but he managed to deal with the managements of commercial real estate corporations throughout his life. I wonder how many people making these criticisms have ever had to deal in commercial real estate, which is one of the more  pitiless and pragmatic fields of endeavor existing. Cain lived a life full of deficits of experience, while career politicians lived a life rich in important real world experience and success. Remind me again of Romney, Perry, Bachmann and even Gingrich's foreign policy experience? Remind me again of the ultimate success of all these valued career politicians hard work: deficits, red tape, cronyism, corporatism, bureaucracy, nepotism, dependency, decline, educational failure, statism, despair, unrest, unfunded liabilities, and division.

Edited on Oct 14, 2011 at 6:30am
katievs
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katievs

This morning I'm thinking it's significant, and worrying, that not a single major Republican has endorsed Cain. 


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Viator

On the value of politicos...

"Here’s another data point: A couple of months back, Newt Gingrich’s entire campaign staff — including Dave Carney, the putative “next Karl Rove” — split and decamped for Texas, soon to join Rick Perry’s campaign. What happened? Today Gingrich is rising in the polls — apparently on the strength of his debate performances — and Perry, who started strong, is, at least for now, in (big) trouble."

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2011/10/14/herman-cain-and-the-death-of-the-political-pro/?singlepage=true

John Marzan
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John Marzan

If this election is where it ought to be — and that is a referendum on how President Obama is doing — Republicans are going to win. If Herman Cain is our nominee running against Barack Obama, I think he’ll sweep the South.

isn't that a gimme for republicans, usually? that is their base right? i know obama won a few southern states, but 2008 was a bad year for repubs.

Israel Pickholtz
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Israel P.

The national sales tax precedent is a very big problem. Once it exists, there is no way it stays at nine percent.  Cain himself seems to wave it away and others seem to be just ignoring it.

For thirty-odd years, I have been in favor of a consumption-based tax instead of an income-based tax (with exemptions for the items which make up the bulk of the budgets of low-income families), but you have to get rid of the income tax at the same time.


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Ed G.
katievs: This morning I'm thinking it's significant, and worrying, that not a single major Republican has endorsed Cain.  · Oct 14 at 4:25am

Is your worry that major republicans lack adequate principle and judgment, or that it implies something negative about Herman Cain?


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Diane Ellis, Ed.

katievs: To me it sounds a little like damning with faint praise.  No, not damning.  More like patting on the back in place of actually endorsing.

If such as Ryan and Barbour do actually endorse him, that will make a big difference to me. · Oct 13 at 6:26pm

It sounded to me like Barbour was still hoping that Perry would swing some sort of a comeback, though he didn't say so outright.

I'm with you in that I'm nervous about Cain, but if he managed to secure endorsements from folks like Ryan or Rubio or Daniels or Barbour, that would go a long way in allaying my anxiety. · Oct 13 at 6:30pm

Why would Rubio or Ryan endorsements count for so much? What's in their resume that is more impressive than Herman Cain's?

Daniels and Barbour, on the other hand, have long and impressive careers. They've long been in the fight in various capacities, and they've had the right views. Their endorsements would certainly solidify my support for Cain. The quote above comes as close as can be for this stage in the campaign.

katievs
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katievs

Ed G.

katievs: This morning I'm thinking it's significant, and worrying, that not a single major Republican has endorsed Cain.  · Oct 14 at 4:25am

Is your worry that major republicans lack adequate principle and judgment, or that it implies something negative about Herman Cain? · Oct 14 at 5:55am

The latter.  I fear it speaks to the competency issue that is bothering me so much.  We may not like politicians much as a class.  But those who do politics for a living know stuff that the rest of us don't know.

katievs
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katievs

Ed G.

The quote above comes as close as can be for this stage in the campaign. · Oct 14 at 6:00am

What makes you say so?  Jindal has endorsed Perry.  Christie and Pawlenty have endorsed Romney.  

"He would sweep the south" is true of virtually every Republican nominee.  It's not much of a compliment.

katievs
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katievs

Ed G.

Why would Rubio or Ryan endorsements count for so much? What's in their resume that is more impressive than Herman Cain's?

It's not that their resumes are more impressive, it's that they're a propos.

Lacking political experience, it's especially important for Cain to secure the backing of seasoned politicians.

The fact that he hasn't is cause for concern.

Edited on Oct 14, 2011 at 6:08am

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katievs

Ed G.

 katievs: This morning I'm thinking it's significant, and worrying, that not a single major Republican has endorsed Cain.  · Oct 14 at 4:25am 

Is your worry that major republicans lack adequate principle and judgment, or that it implies something negative about Herman Cain? · Oct 14 at 5:55am

The latter.  I fear it speaks to the competency issue that is bothering me so much.  We may not like politicians much as a class.  But those who do politics for a living know stuff that the rest of us don't know. · Oct 14 at 6:02am

I still don't understand why you think his competency is in question, considering his success at top levels in varying capacities. What, for example, might those who do politics for a living know that could be considered a mark against Cain? It may help if you could give a concrete example of what you're worried about: a mistake Cain may make mostly due to lack of political experience.

Edited on Oct 14, 2011 at 6:35am

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