Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
I'm a fan of Rand Paul, but I am not a fan of what this apparent Rand Paul supporter did last night to a MoveOn.org activist outside the Kentucky Senatorial debate as the candidates were arriving.
I was heartened to see that near the end of the clip, as the man is stomping on the woman's head, what appears to be a fellow Rand Paul supporter signals for him to stop, saying "No, no, no, no, come on."
Fox News reports on the details (via The Daily Caller):
It is possible that Republican Senate nominee Rand Paul never saw what happened.
A woman wearing a wig -- who would later identify herself as Lauren Valle -- attempted to approach him as he got out of his SUV to attend the final Kentucky Senate debate with Democrat John Conway.
She was wrestled to the ground by Rand Paul supporters. After she was on the ground, one man wearing a Rand Paul shirt and stickers put a foot on her shoulder and stomped.
Valle later appeared to be unharmed. She said she represented "Republicorp," a fictitious company which is the brainchild of MoveOn.org. She claimed that Republicorp was the merger between the Republican Party and corporate America.
She said she was in Kentucky to present Rand Paul with the employee of the month award. The sign she carried supported her claim.
A spokesman for Rand Paul said,"Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse and we urge supporters on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading toward this very important election."
Valle, according to the Huffington Post, was trying to "run up and approach" Paul with a harmless sign right before the incident, so I can understand why she may have startled the Paul supporters. I can even understand that they would want to hold her back as they summon the cops to the scene. But violently wrestling her down to the ground and stomping on her head--that is inexcusable.
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Oct '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Absolutely terrible, but I notice that "Valle later appeared to be unharmed." So there is some exaggeration in the tale. If someone stomps on your head, you are rarely unharmed.
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Hi Xty -- True, she appeared to be unharmed. But did you see the youtube clip? The man is quite clearly stomping on her head. I debated whether to use the word "stepping" or "stomping" to describe his action in my post, but I settled on "stomping" because what he did was so deliberately forceful.
Jun '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
I caught the sound of someone yelling "no, no, no...". I suppose the clip will be shown sans sound in most venues. "If it bleed, it leads" journalism.
Sep '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Stomping on someone's head can easily result in permanent paralysis if you fracture the C4/C5 cervical vertebrae...it does happen, and you'd be up on a manslaughter charge. Incredibly stupid thing to do.
May '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Things are going to get ugly. The leftist agenda includes pushing, pushing, pushing. From union thugs breaking up Republican campaign HQs in Florida and Wisconsin in 2004, to the beat down of Kenneth Gladney in St. Louis, to the nasty mobs that follow conservatives and tea party people around (like the one Andrew Breitbart confronted a month or so ago in Rosemont, IL).
Whenever the leftists turn out, be it G7 or their march on Washington, they trash the place. Greens spike trees, set homes on fire, destroy businesses.
People get tired of being pushed, and start pushing back.
This does not excuse the person's behavior. I'm not saying this is a good thing, I'm just saying it's something we can predict, and I predict we'll see more of it.
May '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
This is terrible. Totally ruins the record that the only violence at Tea Parties has been inflicted by union goons and Moveon types.
Hard to get a grassroots movement without a couple of crazies hanging on. Reminds me of the Illuminatus trilogy when the organizers are informed that the foot fetishists want to march. The organizer does a face-palm and wails "Oh, God, not the toe people".
Aug '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
The guy should, and certainly will be, prosecuted for assault. It's easy to see his face, so he's toast. There's no excuse, and this video feeds into the mantra that conservatives are violence-prone Neanderthals.
Of course, if this were a 'progressive' group, and it was a MoveOn.org member stomping someone, the whole story would be cast in an entirely different light. Remember the black man selling anti-Obama trinkets who was assaulted last May at a campaign rally by a group of SEIU thugs? He ended up in a hospital, but the Regime Media never said a word about it.
Aug '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Lauren Valle is a paid activist, which means an agent provocateur for Moveon.org
These people play very rough. In case, you forget Kenneth Gladney and the girl who works for the RNC and her boyfriend who were pretty badly beaten up in New Orleans, check link.
http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/04/15/photo-released-of-gop-official-and-boyfriend-beaten-bloody/
If the woman is complaining of a slight headache, then she has obviously forgotten her instructions. I imagine she was told to exacerbate anything into some red meat for the media. She's been around. Wonder how many professionals like her the dems hire. Somebody needs to find her rap sheet.
I say no mercy for this one. She was there for a reason and probably got exactly the result she was looking for. At least she didn't pull a Rachel Corrie.
May '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
"Chicks up front" was a tactic of the anti-war movement. It's the way the leftists play. Yes, I'm cynical but I would not discount the possibility that the plan was for Ms. Valle (selected on the basis of gender) to provoke a physical confrontation.
That said, I agree with River, the guy should be prosecuted. The guy should also be investigated, is he really a Rand Paul supporter, or a confederate of Ms. Valle?
Edited on Oct 26, 2010 at 8:05amRe: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
flownover:
I say no mercy for this one. She was there for a reason and probably got exactly the result she was looking for. At least she didn't pull a Rachel Corrie. · Oct 26 at 7:59am
I would agree with Nick that this is all very predictable, but I wouldn't go as far as you do, flownover.
Regardless of what Valle's motivations are, what the male aggressor--the stomper--did was clearly wrong, no? I agree with Kennedy that this is very bad for the tea party, which has otherwise proven itself to be a peaceful group of organizers. I've seen hints of violence at tea party protests before (a sign that said "We left our guns at home ... this time," another sign that called for revolution, and this)--but never any overt violence until now.
Jul '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
flownover: Lauren Valle is a paid activist, which means an agent provocateur for Moveon.org
She was there for a reason and probably got exactly the result she was looking for. · Oct 26 at 7:59am
Which is exactly why MoveOn won & the Tea Party lost.
I'm sure she's a jerk, but that dude was way out of line.
Aug '10
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Sorry to be hardline. I saw the tape and that wasn't a stomp, he put her shoulder to the ground. But then Kentucky has its share of hardplaying good ol boys.
Let's get paranoid a sec. Who was he ? What is the deal with the new white running shoes ? Not really the normal shoewear considering the rest of his wardrobe. You'd expect boots, maybe workshoes. Something is not quite right.
I reserve judgement until we see who the perp is.
The tea party has no leaders, therefore few rules. If Paul had been a presidential candidate with secret service coverage, what would the takedown look like ?
update:
here's the ron paul group page from MIke Pezzano, one of the alleged attackers
http://www.meetup.com/ronpaul-146/members/4459867/
I wouldn't call him a Tea Partier, exactly. A little more past here than that.
Edited on Oct 26, 2010 at 9:06amMay '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
His foot was on her back, not on her head.
Obviously, it was wrong. But the other vital aspect of this story, which the news will not cover, is why liberals think harassment like this is preferrable to civil discourse.
I often say it and it's worth repeating: the Left is training people to disregard civility and reject any sympathy for those who disagree with them. Millions of Americans have accepted this view that conservatives are unworthy of basic consideration. If that trend continues, politics will be the least of our worries.
May '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Why did they wrestle her to the ground and call out for someone to go get the police? It looked like this happened on a public sidewalk. They could've nudged her out of the way, or better yet, just ignored her. I can see MSNBC and friends practically wetting themselves with excitement about making a martyr out of this woman. Stupid. Really stupid.
Edited on Oct 26, 2010 at 11:03amRe: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
I agree. If they saw her as a threat, they should have held her back and nothing more. As to the perp being a liberal plant, I'm skeptical, as I am of all conspiratorial thinking. But I'll be happy to apologize if I'm proven wrong. The fact of the matter is that a foot came down hard on a woman, period. That's violence. Violence is never acceptable. And it makes matters worse that this was man-on-woman violence, which brings me back to the Karen's original point: the men could have easily detained her without resorting to the type of physical aggression that they employed.
Edited on Oct 26, 2010 at 10:46amMay '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.
· Oct 26 at 10:45am
Edited on Oct 26 at 10:46 am
If he hasn't already, Paul should hold a press conference and speak out against this violence. If it gets a lot of play (which it will), every Republican candidate should condemn the violence. It doesn't matter if the guy was a plant. You don't throw someone to the ground. This is the very thing that the dems want to catch on film. Obama's next major speech will reference this event. I know dems play dirty, but that's how they are. We are supposed to be the grownups. People fought and died for that woman's right to be a jerk. If you can't respect that right, respect the sacrifices of those who fought for her freedom to exercise her rights. If you believe in the Constitution, then you have to believe the rights and responsibilities granted by it apply to all citizens.
Aug '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
Emily Esfahani Smith, Ed.
came down hard on a woman, period.
Yes Emily. I yield to your view. I guess that the Paulistas are not ready for prime time if they're going to act like democrats. update Tim Profitt was the other guy. http://www.nowpublic.com/world/tim-profitt-rand-paul-rally-supporter-confronted-lauren-valle-2708362.html
At least he apologized, assailants in New Orleans attack at large.
Edited on Oct 26, 2010 at 2:42pmMay '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
@daveweigel had the line of the day on Twitter:
"Rand Paul: Don't tread on me, tread on that chick over there."
Aug '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
I believe there may be a redneck or two in Kentucky! This incident is very unfortunate and will be played non-stop by the drive-by media for the next 48 hours. Wouldn't surprise me if the guy's a plant but it won't matter because by the time it's revealed tha narrative will have been set. If he is a Rand Paul supporter the bozo has set back his cause 100 yrs...
Jun '10
Re: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn.Org Activist's Head
I just saw the clip again on the news. Sure enough, it was aired without sound. Except for the misleading commentary that is.