George Savage · February 10, 2012 at 6:58pm

Religious institutions will no longer be required to fund free birth control for all.  Instead, the health insurance companies contracting with religious institutions and everyone else will be required to fund free birth control for all.  See the difference?

Capping weeks of growing controversy, Obama announced he was backing off a newly announced requirement for religious employers to provide free birth control coverage even if it runs counter to their religious beliefs. Instead, workers at such institutions will be able to get free birth control coverage directly from health insurance companies.

Glad to see that our president is eschewing the politics of division in favor of compromise.

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George Savage

This circus illustrates one of the dynamics of top-down government-directed healthcare: coverage mandates based on political calculation.  Most voters are healthy, so therefore money that would otherwise be spent caring for the sick is redirected toward making healthy voters happy with incumbent politicians.

John Murdoch
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John Murdoch

Nice try.


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Nealfred

Is he done yet! What else is he going to give that isn't his to give?

Tom Lindholtz
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Tom Lindholtz

When a man ceases to believe in God, he believes not in nothing, but in anything. -- GK Chesterton

DocJay
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DocJay

He fakes, he dodges, he shoots, air ball. I saw Sebelius doing her two step today and realized what this meant too. I use Catholic insurance and have never had a problem paying for my own non-covered care which included bribing my urologist with Duckhorn for a procedure. This policy forces the Catholics out of the health insurance business. The policy I have is from the most ethical folks in town, I bet they shut down though which is probably the idea.

Edited on February 10, 2012 at 7:17pm
Tom Lindholtz
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Tom Lindholtz

BTW, how is the insurance company going to pay for this mandate? They'll simply price it into their overhead and pass it along to their clients .... including the Catholic and other religious agencies who don't want to pay for it in the first place. They obviously think we're stupid.

Casey
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Casey

You think this is great?  Imagine how much fun we're gonna have when Obamacare actually begins.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

As Rush pointed out this morning, Republicans must defeat this mandate not only on the grounds that it is wrong but also on the grounds that neither the President nor the HHS has the Constitutional authority to make such a mandate... regardless of what SCOTUS rules on Obamacare. We must remember that even failed actions can set precedents which sway public perceptions of authority.

Even if Obama is defeated in the November election, he will leave office after a flurry of last-minute dictates like this one.

TerMend
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TerMend

DocJay: He fakes, he dodges, he shoots, air ball. I saw Sebelius doing her two step today and realized what this meant too. I use Catholic insurance and have never had a problem paying for my own non-covered care which included bribing my urologist with Duckhorn for a procedure. This policy forces the Catholics out of the health insurance business. The policy I have is from the most ethical folks in town, I bet they shut down though which is probably the idea. · 49 minutes ago

Edited 47 minutes ago

OF COURSE that's the idea! 

C. U. Douglas
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C. U. Douglas

So basically, it's all okay.  Catholics don't need to worry because Obama just placed another layer of bureaucracy between their values and his?

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin
Aaron Miller: As Rush pointed out this morning, Republicans must defeat this mandate not only on the grounds that it is wrong but also on the grounds that neither the President nor the HHS has the Constitutional authority to make such a mandate... regardless of what SCOTUS rules on Obamacare.

That is exactly right. They do not have the authority to force this -- on the church, on businesses, on insurance companies, or on individuals. It's time we went to the mat over this.

George Savage
C. U. Douglas: So basically, it's all okay.  Catholics don't need to worry because Obama just placed another layer of bureaucracy between their values and his? · 10 minutes ago

Well put!

genferei
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genferei
Religious institutions will no longer be required to fund free birth control for all.

But religious individuals will. I don't see "institution" in my copy of the First Amendment. I'd better upgrade.

Leigh
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genferei

Religious institutions will no longer be required to fund free birth control for all.

But religious individuals will. I don't see "institution" in my copy of the First Amendment. I'd better upgrade. · 3 minutes ago

Exactly.  I have the right (and, in fact, the responsibility) as an individual to live out my faith, regardless of whether my work is explicitly religious or not.

~Paules
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~Paules

I still don't understand Obama's motivation on this issue.  Is he overwhelming arrogant or monumentally clueless?  Or both?  Who in the Obama administration decided it was a good idea to challenge the Roman Catholic Church on a doctrinal issue?  If Republicans don't use this to drive a stake through the heart of this administration, we deserve to lose.  Maybe Professor Rahe is correct, Obama really is the gift that keeps on giving.   

George Savage
~Paules: I still don't understand Obama's motivation on this issue.  Is he overwhelming arrogant or monumentally clueless?  Or both?  Who in the Obama administration decided it was a good idea to challenge the Roman Catholic Church on a doctrinal issue?  If Republicans don't use this to drive a stake through the heart of this administration, we deserve to lose.  Maybe Professor Rahe is correct, Obama really is the gift that keeps on giving.    · 1 minute ago

Paules, the president is, in his own words, out to fundamentally transform the United States of America.  You cannot remake a constitutional republic into a statist utopia as long as independent institutions provide a locus of non-conformity.

So the Catholic church in particular, and religious institutions generally, must be brought to heel.

This is just the opening salvo.  As Obamacare gets rolling along expect to be buried in offensive minutiae as the unelected, largely unaccountable legislators toiling away in the cubicles of the administrative state go into overdrive to impose Obama's vision of "fairness" on us all.

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Mendel
~Paules: I still don't understand Obama's motivation on this issue.  Is he overwhelming arrogant or monumentally clueless?  Or both?  Who in the Obama administration decided it was a good idea to challenge the Roman Catholic Church on a doctrinal issue?  If Republicans don't use this to drive a stake through the heart of this administration, we deserve to lose.  Maybe Professor Rahe is correct, Obama really is the gift that keeps on giving.   

According to a new survey out today (by a group with apparently good credentials), a majority of Catholics support the contraceptive mandate, including for religious institutions!

I'm sure this idea looked good on paper to the Obama administration, but, as always, their lack of political sense turned what had the potential to be a winning argument into a scandal.  Were Bill Clinton president, this mandate would have been long since adopted with nary a peep.  Republicans should thank their lucky stars for such a bumbling opponent, but be ever mindful that center of popular opinion is still further left than they can imagine.

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DocJay: He fakes, he dodges, he shoots, air ball. I saw Sebelius doing her two step today and realized what this meant too. I use Catholic insurance and have never had a problem paying for my own non-covered care which included bribing my urologist with Duckhorn for a procedure. This policy forces the Catholics out of the health insurance business. The policy I have is from the most ethical folks in town, I bet they shut down though which is probably the idea. · 3 hours ago

Edited 3 hours ago

It is the idea.  Satan, through his accomplices here on earth, will stop at nothing to destroy Christianity. 

Mendel
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Mendel
George Savage: Religious institutions will no longer be required to fund free birth control for all.  Instead, the health insurance companies contracting with religious institutions and everyone else will be required to fund free birth control for all.  See the difference?

Isn't this the same logic that the administration is using in defending the individual mandate in court: "it's not a mandate to purchase something, it's a tax that everyone with health insurance is exempt from!"?

AUMom
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AUMom

What am I missing here? The Catholic opposition is contraception, not paying for it. Paying for it is only adding insult to injury. Why does the President and his administration not understand that? Or do they just not care? 


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