Rob Long · October 31, 2011 at 6:15am

Uh oh.  This just in, from Politico:

POLITICO EXCLUSIVE: During Herman Cain's tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.

The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association.

Cain declined to respond directly to the allegations. 

They must be very, very scared of him, no?

Comments:


AmishDude
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AmishDude

There are so many anonymous sources, you can't figure out who is who.

Chris O.
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Chris O.

Anyone willing to put their name to the story says it would be out of character and never heard the allegations, including members of the board. I'm so tired of this game. Something that serious would have been discussed by the board, even the board of an association. I don't want to dismiss this out of hand, it just smacks of other hit jobs. Anyone check the font on the documentation?

Tuscarora Jack
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Tuscarora Jack

The LIberal establishment is afraid, very afraid of Cain and Rubio at this point in time.  They've been trying to smear Rubio since July and now they have included Cain to their repertoire of hatchet jobs in progress.

AmishDude
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AmishDude
Tuscarora Jack: The LIberal establishment is afraid, very afraid of Cain and Rubio at this point in time.  They've been trying to smear Rubio since July and now they have included Cain to their repertoire of hatchet jobs in progress. · Oct 30 at 11:28pm

This is what makes me think that it wasn't a rival campaign.  I think the Democrats are desperately afraid of a preference cascade among African-Americans. What they don't want is a marked lack of enthusiasm among their constituency groups.


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RBB

Very hard to know how this will end up. If true, it could sink him. If overblown, it could backfire on whomever wants to hurt Cain and solidify his support. I think the American people are sick of this type of politics. At least I hope we are. They are very afraid of Mr Cain. "They" include Democrats, big labor, lobbyists, , campaign consultants, and pundits. If he wins and gets some of his agenda passed their way of life will be changed dramatically.

Ethan Safron
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Ethan Safron

Forgive me for joking about this sour piece of news, but I just can't restrain myself.

Perhaps Cain got in trouble for gathering the women into a room, telling them that he'd "rate" them on a scale from 1 to 10. He then pointed at the first girl and said "9", and said "9" to the next, and topped it off with one last "9".

John Marzan
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John Marzan

the media forgot to vet the last credible black candidate for president, so now they are making up for it with the current one--who happens to run as a conservative.

Claire Berlinski, Ed.

Man, I'm bored with this already. This is so 1990s. 

Andrew Barrett
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Andrew Barrett

I'm not so sure it is the Democrats or the liberal media responsible for this story.  As a conservative, I am more afraid of Cain than I bet most liberals are.  I like him personally, but Cain would be a disaster in a general election campaign, ensuring four more years for President Obama.  I wager the Obama Administration would love a Obama/Cain contest.  This story smells like a rival GOP campaign is behind it, and Politico simply couldn't resist smearing a popular conservative.

Frozen Chosen
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Frozen Chosen

If Cain is innocent he should probably get a better response than this;

He was then asked, “Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman?”

He breathed audibly, glared at the reporter and stayed silent for several seconds. After the question was repeated three times, he responded by asking the reporter, “Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment?”

Edited on October 31, 2011 at 1:44pm
lakely LANE
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lane Krause

 'sexual harassment' has been so dumbed down that it almost has to be rape for me to trust it, the sad thing it is mainly women numbing it even chumming for it. What a sad excuse of reporting, my eyes were even ashamed of reading it!

Stu In Tokyo
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Stu In Tokyo

With this kind of witch hunt why do so many of you wonder why all the other likable candidates refuse to run? Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, etc. Sure you can make the same old excuses about "Duty" and "Part of the game" you want, but in the end, if you have an "R" beside your name, and you want to run for president, the public anal exam that you, and anyone you care about will have to go through is so far above and beyond the call of duty for running for pubic office, it is understandable why so many good honest hard working people will not stand for office.

What do do about it? I do not know, but there has to be some consequence for this kind of attack, this is not reporting, or journalism it is a partisan attack. Pundits on our side should walk off sets, they should demand that this kind of thing be punished, or they should simply NOT participate. I know they will not do this, as they live off the media attention they get, but really, when you want to know why the good people on our side do not stand....

Louie Mungaray (Squishy)
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Squishy Blue RINO

Frozen Chosen: If Cain is innocent he should probably get a better response than this;

He was then asked, “Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman?”

He breathed audibly, glared at the reporter and stayed silent for several seconds. After the question was repeated three times, he responded by asking the reporter, “Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment?” · Oct 31 at 5:35am

Edited on Oct 31 at 05:44 am

He and his have had 10 days to prepare for this story breaking. The best they have come up with is a flaming sack of non-denial.

I heard one fellow say it would take a dead girl or a live boy to derail the Cain Train. Two live women bound by non-disclosure agreements won't even leave a mark.


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OkieSailor

Around 2000 (I'm not sure of the year) we were herded into a conference room and subjected to an "explanation" of what would be considered "sexual harassment" according to the recently revamped edicts from the EEOC. The bottom line was (in our considered assessment); if she likes a comment it's ok (no matter the content), if tomorrow she doesn't like the same comment, that's harassment. So then, I would have to know the specifics of the incident (which are impossible to ascertain) to be able to judge whether actual harassment occured.  In other words the facts are not discoverable, accusation equals guilt, and the charge is unanswerable. That's probably why these two women were paid to go away. It's possible that Mr. Cain said something inappropriate but it would have been very much out of character for him to do so. My bottom line is that anyone who doesn't see that this is most likely a scurrilous and baseless attack motivated by liberal fear of a black conservative drawing 'their' votes to the 'wrong' party is sorely lacking discernment. 


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OkieSailor

Around 2000 (I'm not sure of the year) we were herded into a conference room and subjected to an "explanation" of what would be considered "sexual harassment" according to the recently revamped edicts from the EEOC. The bottom line was (in our considered assessment); if she likes a comment it's ok (no matter the content), if tomorrow she doesn't like the same comment, that's harassment. So then, I would have to know the specifics of the incident (which are impossible to ascertain) to be able to judge whether actual harassment occured.  In other words the facts are not discoverable, accusation equals guilt, and the charge is unanswerable. That's probably why these two women were paid to go away. It's possible that Mr. Cain said something inappropriate but it would have been very much out of character for him to do so. My bottom line is that anyone who doesn't see that this is most likely a scurrilous and baseless attack motivated by liberal fear of a black conservative drawing 'their' votes to the 'wrong' party is sorely lacking discernment. 

TucsonSean
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TucsonSean

They could be afraid of him.  It is also possible he actually made such inappropriate statements.  Unless he comes out and denies it, then it will stay there.

Unlike the Clarence Thomas scenario, these women appear to have left the job as a consequence, and did not follow him around taking subsequent jobs from him, putting the lie to the charges.

He needs to address it either now or later.  You think NOW is not going to be faux apoplectic over this if he were to face obama?

Edited on October 31, 2011 at 3:54pm

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OkieSailor

Cains 'problem' now is the current definition of what is inappropriate (see my earlier comment). that is why he is demanding to face his accusers. Unless specific charges are made there is nothing to refute, just nebulous charges which amount to "she didn't like what he said". We abandoned any definition of what is out of bounds when we decided that any is acceptable if both parties are pleased but none is if one patty is offended. That makes any charge unaswerable. I was never so charges but was witness to such scurrilous attacks and did see the impossibility of defending oneself; the only way to resolve it was a pay-off. that creates a strong incentive for unsubstantive charges to be filed. The worst aspect of this is that truly egregious behavior is devalued by being lumped in with these type of groundless actions. I can't really judge what occurred (see previous post) and so am left to judge the merits based on what I know about the character and actions of the accused; a sorry state of affairs. I would wish that a firm denial would put the matter to rest but that is unfortunately not the case.


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OkieSailor

Also, I do think NOW will attack Mr. Cain regardless of how he responds. I also think sexual harassment in the workplace is a serious problem and that it has been made much more so by these muddle-headed definitions handed down from on high by our Federal Masters. Unless we return to sensible understandings of what is unacceptable behavior between the sexes in a work environment no one can ever be safe from either harassment or unjustified accusations of such.


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Tim Hughes

I'll bet that this came from the Republican DC establishment, which fears the demolition of the current tax code. There would be thousands of unemployed tax lawyers, accountants and lobbyists as a result. DC real-estate values would collapse.

SooperMexican
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SooperMexican

This story tells us what we already know - the Media hates conservatives and will exaggerate any story to beat us over the head with. Especially hated, of course, are black conservatives.

The real story here is how the Cain campaign will handle the smearing. If he whines like Sarah Palin that it's 'unfair' (even though it is), he won't be able to handle the pressure of being the first black conservative prez. If he defends himself clearly and firmly, this will strengthen his position. Or should, at least.


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