Franco · Apr 22, 2011 at 10:11pm
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Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

And yet that was a much more interesting interview than I'm accustomed to. At least Bashir came prepared with provocative questions. That style -- British style -- probably is more effective with a non-Breitbart guest. This Bashir guy is the same one who read Rob Bell's book on hell before interviewing him. I think Bell is probably still recovering.

Finster
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Finster

Say what you will about Andrew Breitbart, but I am awfully glad he is out there fighting for our side.

River
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River

That is Breitbart at his best. He's a valuable player on our side.

Franco
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Franco

I was tempted to make the headline: Bashir Displays Pic of Obama as Monkey - Agrees with Glenn Beck! That's the kind of journalism Bashir engages in.

Larry Koler
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Larry Koler

Yes, Molly, it was an interesting interview from the point of view of provocative questions. I think Andrew acquitted himself well.

It is a scurrilous tactic to pretend that selective editing itself is illegitimate. This is what everyone in the business does (and has to do) -- and it can be done in a legitimate fashion or not. Andrew's article was about the NAACP's racism and a little about Sherrod. His editing was fine in that this was about how this is proven by the video. The narrative got changed to Sherrod later by the White House's over-reaction.

Also, did you notice that Andrew's first answer, "No", was to the question of whether he had watched the whole video. The reason he answered this way is because he did not have the whole video until later -- something that Bashir must have known if he did his research. So, who's telling the whole truth? The whole video doesn't change what Andrew was imputing: that the NAACP is racist and they have no business wagging their fingers at the Tea Party. 

Severely Ltd.
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Severely Ltd.

This interview frustrated me. I am wholly in favor of Andrew taking the aggressive stance he did, but I think he'd be more convincing to the fence-sitters if he'd answered using the same tone Bashir was using. He could've have insisted on making his points in full before moving on and holding Bashir to task equally well with a calmer approach.

Having said that, if I were in his position of being constantly misrepresented by the press, I might react the same. It would be tough.

Franco
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Franco

Severely Ltd.: This interview frustrated me. I am wholly in favor of Andrew taking the aggressive stance he did, but I think he'd be more convincing to the fence-sitters if he'd answered using the same tone Bashir was using. He could've have insisted on making his points in full before moving on and holding Bashir to task equally well with a calmer approach.

Having said that, if I were in his position of being constantly misrepresented by the press, I might react the same.

I can't imagine any "fence sitter" that would not be appalled at Bashir's approach and outrageous tactics. And I can't agree that it was Brietbart who had the "aggressive stance" as you say.

You have to understand,  letting the inquisitor finish his question in silence is all they want or need. It's theater, and Breitbart is the prop and the accused in the show trial. The whole thing is more like Bashir saying - please let me finish my badly reasoned guilt-by-association long-winded smear of you that is in the, when did you stop beating your wife? form, in my sophisticated British accent.

Franco
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Franco

The thing is, Severely LTD, that if Brietbart lets the guy finish his long-winded question with multiple accusations and implications embedded, Brietbart's going to get one or two sentences out, at best, and then the inquisitor is going to ask another long-winded smear in the form of a question, and so on and then they will be out of time.


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Abdiel

Journalism at its worst. This Bashir guys is unbearable.

Severely Ltd.
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Severely Ltd.

 

Franco

I can't imagine any "fence sitter" that would not be appalled at Bashir's approach and outrageous tactics. And I can't agree that it was Brietbart who had the "aggressive stance" as you say.

You have to understand,  letting the inquisitor finish his question in silence is all they want or need. It's theater, and Breitbart is the prop and the accused in the show trial. The whole thing is more like Bashir saying - please let me finish my badly reasoned guilt-by-association long-winded smear of you that is in the, when did you stop beating your wife? form, in my sophisticated British accent. · Apr 22 at 8:58am

You're right that Bashir was being aggressive. He does it under a cloak of sham long-suffering reasonableness.

 I don't like that Andrew's manner can be seen as 'he protesteth too much'. I think he could be firm and make Bashir look like a boor for interrupting with those leading questions.

Edited on Apr 22, 2011 at 10:36am
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Larry Koler

Severely Ltd.:  

I don't like that Andrew's manner can be seen as 'he protesteth too much'. I think he could be firm and make Bashir look like a boor for interrupting with those leading questions.

I know what you mean that he seems too defensive sometimes. But, having watched Andrew for several years now I can see he's getting better all the time. This is hard to do -- I'm sure we all agree. It takes a very strong ego structure. Not just self-esteem but a tempered sense of self and certainty in the cause. 

I just don't see many others willing to do this hard work. My interest in politics starts and stops with this type of battle. Not the atmospherics, but the rational and moral cases of the conservative approach to government. Andrew is very clear on these issues.

Really, the more I watch what is happening in America, I realize that the conservatives are really just traditional Americans. The leftist takeover of the Democratic Party has simply resulted in un-American and often anti-American actions and belief systems. The belief systems -- who cares. But their actions are too often illegitimate.

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Steven Drexler

 Bashir's interview was a messy effluvium of non-sequiturs and innuendo. He jumps from one point to the next, trying to tie them together with silly string. Not one follow-up question, and he acted as if he couldn't hear what Breitbart was saying. I wish Breitbart had called him out on that more often.

Two great points: 1. you didn't read my book, and 2. you don't want to hear my answers.

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Capt. Spaulding

Andrew has an appetite for the arena, and for that we should respect him. Two days before Bashir, he submitted to Joy Behar, who double teamed him with Stephanie Miller. The two kept trying to link Andrew to various GOP figures who were obviously racist/homophobic types, in the view of the women. He pretty much yawned at that tactic. Behar never gave him the courtesy of mentioning his book. The conversation meandered to a dead end.

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Jaydee_007

Severely Ltd.: This interview frustrated me. I am wholly in favor of Andrew taking the aggressive stance he did, but I think he'd be more convincing to the fence-sitters if he'd answered using the same tone Bashir was using. He could've have insisted on making his points in full before moving on and holding Bashir to task equally well with a calmer approach.

Having said that, if I were in his position of being constantly misrepresented by the press, I might react the same. It would be tough. · Apr 22 at 8:21am

Bashir was engaging in exactly what he was accusing Andrew of doing.  I was so pleased that Andrew pointed it out.  Of course Bashir was totally unfazed by it all in that liberal deflect manner they all use when confronted with the truth, to make themselves seem more 'reasonable.' 

Oh, and WOW, He found One  (That's right ONE) picture of Obama as a chimp.

Go to Google, click the Images category then type bush chimpanzee and scroll down.
Don't bother counting.

Edited on Apr 23, 2011 at 12:33am
Joseph Eagar
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Joseph Eagar

That guy totally made a complete fool of himself.

Hay, we should get Mark Steyn to make more fun of Media Matters on the podcast.  They should do more lefty-media baiting, like Rush does.  They could tailor it personally to Soros institutions; it'd be hilarious.

Robert Kelly
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Robert Kelly

Breitbart is always extremely well prepared.  

I agree and disagree with Severely Ltd.  I find television interviews increasingly difficult to watch.  Too many interruptions and non sequitur answers.  Uncommon Knowledge it is not.  You almost have to read liberal blogs and conservative blogs separately and do the sorting yourself. (HuffPo actually has some readable stuff).

On the otherhand, TV is still king of media. Conservatives necessarily have to fight fire with fire.  And Breitbart is VERY good at it.

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Pat in Obamaland

I cannot overstate how glad I am Breitbart is on our side.  He is filling that citizen-journalist role that we have so dearly needed for decades now.  

But, more importantly, who does Martin Bashir think he is?  Smear interview Andrew Breitbart?  Breitbart is a man who goes on Bill Maher's show; did this Bashir lightweight really think he could beatdown a conservative who enjoys going on Real Time with Media Matters talking points?

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Michael Tee

Strange thing is, more people on Ricochet have watched it on the interwebs than people who actually watched it live.

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Robert Kelly
Michael Tee: Strange thing is, more people on Ricochet have watched it on the interwebs than people who actually watched it live. · Apr 23 at 7:49am

More and more people are seeing video clips via their bookmarks than TV.  Maybe Rob Long knows the specifics of this trend.  I wonder if candidates will require significantly less money to compete in the big leagues in this election cycle?  It may allow some very qualified people to throw their hats in, where they would not otherwise due to fund-raising constraints.

Rob Long

Robert Kelly

Michael Tee: Strange thing is, more people on Ricochet have watched it on the interwebs than people who actually watched it live. · Apr 23 at 7:49am

More and more people are seeing video clips via their bookmarks than TV.  Maybe Rob Long knows the specifics of this trend.  I wonder if candidates will require significantly less money to compete in the big leagues in this election cycle?  It may allow some very qualified people to throw their hats in, where they would not otherwise due to fund-raising constraints. · Apr 23 at 10:28am

I think that's a great point -- more people are seeing clips, interviews like the one above, than are watching the show itself.

I think Andrew did rather well.  And I think Bashir is an irritating nit, but I think that's okay -- Andrew's a big boy and can dispatch him easily.


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