Allen West Gets it Right
Tom Lindholtz ·
January 14, 2012 at 5:29pm
Finally, a responsible adult speaks out on Urinegate. You can read Allen West's response here.
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Dec '10
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
(cont. from #60)
If the dems don't screw us up with their idiotic gerrymandering redistricting Allen will bust them up again for sure. If that's the case I'm gonna play "Have Gun Will Travel" and try to help somebody in another district who needs it more.
I would like to meet Rand Paul. He and I have something in common. We both had fathers who were 'over the top'. Only on occasion was I strong enough to "settle him down". I'm hoping Rand will talk to his sweet old father and make sure that he know's that the Republican Party is now a big tent. Don't knock the tent post out cause the whole thing would fall right on top of us and the country.
May '10
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Interesting comments, all. I appreciate Claire's perspective from overseas. It demonstrates that America is, inded, a unique entity; far more morally and ethically introspective than many other countries, and perhaps far more unrealistically idealistic, as well.
RE the Abu Graib thred, this is why, IMO, the US military should be used, in the words of BT Collins, to kill people and break things, and then go home. If it is necessary for us to significantly destroy a country because they pose a serious threat, then do it. And let them rebuild whatever they need. But let them, and other countries, know that if they pose a threat again, then we wil repeat from the top.
It is a fact of life that the military, like all other organisations, is comprised of fallen human beings. And given enough time in a strange environment some kind of reprehensible behavior will surface. The best way to limit these embarassments is to stay away from the situations that give rise to them.
Aug '11
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
- Anthony Lloyd, "The Ten Years' War Against the Taliban"
Mar '11
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
Give Me Liberty
Victor Davis Hanson does a very good write up on E.B. Sledge's work.
When I first heard of this incident I thought of E.B. Sledge. · Jan 14 at 5:20pm
Thank you, "GIVE ME LIBERTY", for reminding me of Sledge's masterful "With the Old Breed", and for the link to Victor Davis Hanson's piece on Sledge. I'm not willing to join with those who say you have no right to comment or condemn if you haven't been there. But I am willing to say that if you haven't been there your comments or condemnation could only be accurate by coincidence.
Mar '11
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Edited on January 17, 2012 at 3:27pmSep '10
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Representative West is wrong yet again. Please don't think that you must be shot at or even be in uniform in order to have an opinion on these Marines. It is increasingly difficult for us to determine morality in war but Congressman West may not be someone we should consult for an answer.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOACID000105.pdf
Jun '10
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Lt Colonel Don: Representative West is wrong yet again. Please don't think that you must be shot at or even be in uniform in order to have an opinion on these Marines. It is increasingly difficult for us to determine morality in war but Congressman West may not be someone we should consult for an answer.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOACID000105.pdf · Jan 17 at 11:26am
Don, where have you been? Don't you know that this is why we like West?
War is full of moral ambiguities. So, is politics. Get used to it.
Nov '11
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
Lt Colonel Don: Representative West is wrong yet again. Please don't think that you must be shot at or even be in uniform in order to have an opinion on these Marines. It is increasingly difficult for us to determine morality in war but Congressman West may not be someone we should consult for an answer.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOACID000105.pdf · Jan 17 at 11:26am
Who should we consult? Bradley Manning?
Nov '11
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
Mothership_Greg
Lt Colonel Don: Representative West is wrong yet again. Please don't think that you must be shot at or even be in uniform in order to have an opinion on these Marines. It is increasingly difficult for us to determine morality in war but Congressman West may not be someone we should consult for an answer.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US
http://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOACID000105.pdf · Jan 17 at 11:26am
Who should we consult? Bradley Manning? · Jan 17 at 7:44pm
Maybe Leif Babin?
Sep '10
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Larry, where have I been? I got back from Iraq in July, my third trip. You like West because he tells opponents to shut up? Not sure what to make of your last comment about moral ambiguities.
Greg, there are other choices but those three and you don't have to be shot at to have the right to an opinion.
Sep '10
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Jun '10
Re: Allen West Gets it Right
Lt Colonel Don: Larry, where have I been? I got back from Iraq in July, my third trip. You like West because he tells opponents to shut up? Not sure what to make of your last comment about moral ambiguities.
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Mostly, I like West because of his moral courage.
But, please don't miss the main gist of all this: West is trying to put things in perspective especially in light of the Abu Ghraib fiasco as exploited by the MSM. It is obscene to pretend to have no standards about all this. We simply have to handle such outrages as urinating on corpses for what it was. And no one should try to present it as being as bad as how the Japanese treated POWs during the Bataan death march, for example. Just one point of comparison. This is a sliding scale. American troops, in general, do pretty well in head-to-head match ups against all of our enemies.
And finally, the most important thing West is doing is fighting the left-wing's desires to damage our country's reputation and thereby help the enemy. We need only follow standard procedures and we need not flagellate ourselves.
Sep '10
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I understand that no one will be able to convince you that the left is not trying to damage our country's reputation and thereby help the enemy so I won't try. We liberals love America just as much as you do.
Also, none of us have compared it to Bataan, Abu Ghraib or Auschwitz. Those comparisons don't justify the Marines or advance the discussion.