Al Sharpton: Republican Latinos are LINOs
Florida Senator-elect Marco Rubio? Latino In Name Only. New Mexico Governor-elect Susana Martinez? Also a "LINO." Same goes for Nevada's Governor-elect Brian Sandoval. According to Al Sharpton, a real Latino cannot, by definition, hold conservative views. Geraldo Rivera summarizes the Reverend Sharpton's argument as expressed in a recent interview:
Seeming to minimize their electoral achievement, Reverend Al was quick to point out on the air that what characterized these newly elected Latino congress-people was that they were elected from non-Latino dominant, heavily GOP districts. In other words, if some other candidate, say a non-Latino Republican had run instead, he or she would probably have also surfed the Republican tsunami to easy victory. Reverend Al further pointed out that neither of the governors, Martínez and Sandoval received a majority of the Hispanic vote; in fact Sandoval won barely a third of Nevada's Hispanic vote according to the Pew Research Center, the best pollsters in the business of tracking Latino trends.
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Putting aside any implication of ethnic window-dressing, let’s examine Al’s basic premise that newly elected Latino Republicans are, to bastardize an anagram, LINO’s (Latinos In Name Only). After all, didn’t Rubio disappoint us by changing his original position from measured support to mild opposition to comprehensive immigration reform; not to mention changing his position on the compassionate and super-reasonable DREAM Act, and most upsetting, on Arizona’s draconian anti-immigration law (SB1070), morphing from opposition to support of that dreadful law as his campaign progressed?
To suggest that Latinos who refrain from adopting the victim mentality prescribed to them by their leaders within the Democrat Party are sell-outs, or somehow inauthentic, is not only insulting and racist, but also dead wrong. Surprisingly Geraldo, with whom I seldom agree, sees Sharpton's argument for what it is: wishful thinking.
...Hispanics will have to get used to the fact that while 64% voted for Democrats this past election, that means one in three did not.
Led by the Cubans...more will move to the right politically. To generalize, Hispanic culture is reflexively conservative; with heavy emphasis on family, care of the elderly, church (right to life), country, hard work and just rewards. In the words of Ronald Reagan, “they are Republicans; they just don’t know it yet.”
If the GOP would just abandon, or more realistically moderate its currently noxious immigration politics, and policies like the English-only nonsense and efforts to repeal the Fourteenth Amendment, many Latinos would be up for grabs in terms of party affiliation.
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Jun '10
Re: Al Sharpton: Republican Latinos are LINOs
Wawrzyniec Czriwisczcki definitely a PINO -- Polish in name only.
Oct '10
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Not at all a surprise. This is the same person who said "in my opinion there is not a black man on the supreme court." And further went on to say that Clarence Thomas is a member of the "white, right, voting bloc."
To these people race is the very core of your identity and goes above all other considerations. If you don't hold the view that "racial interests" (as if everyone of similar ancestry and melanin content have the same interests.) then you are a race traitor and not even a "real" member of said race.
Of course, if it went without saying that members of a race/nation all held the same interests there wouldn't have been civil wars in America, England, France, Ireland, Cambodia, Russia...not to mention just about all of Africa at one point or another in the last hundred years.
May '10
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I suppose it would be impolite to refer to Reverend Al as an AL-BINO...
Jun '10
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Asking a Cuban-American to be a leftist socialist, like Al is, is like asking an African-American to pick cotton.
Nov '10
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Geraldo may be right about Al the Liberal Plantation Overseer, but he is dead wrong on three counts:
(1) Arizona's "noxious" immigration policy is simply an attempt to enforce laws that the federal government refuses to uphold. Seventy percent of the country understands this and approves of it.
(2) The English-only policy is so "nonsensical" that Beijing has mandated that every Chinese child shall be taught English as a second language, so that they may compete in the global economy. The communist Chinese may be bloody tyrants, but they are not stupid.
(3) The Fourteenth Amendment was enacted in 1868 basically to protect the rights of former slaves and the children of slaves. Since those days are far behind us, the 14th Amendment ought to be repealed, because it is now being abused in a way that has little to do with its original intention.
Also, it is worth pointing out that, while Geraldo's father was Puerto Rican, his mother was descended from Russian Jews. In fact, Geraldo had a Jewish upbringing, complete with Bar Mitzvah. The simple fact is, "Jerry" became "Geraldo" and cynically cashed in on his Latino paternity in order to advance his career.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:18pmOct '10
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"If the GOP would just abandon, or more realistically moderate its currently noxious immigration politics, and policies like the English-only nonsense"
do you agree with this diane?
And I don't think Anglos want "English-only" since many Americans and legal immigrants are multilingual (I understand Tagalog, English, and some Chinese, but not Spanish even though most filipinos have spanish surnames and the Philippines was Spain's colony for 400 yrs.) But English should be the official US language. And bilingual education in public schools should be discouraged (unless it's a private school).
Oct '10
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"(2) The English-only policy is so "nonsensical" that Beijing has mandated that every Chinese child shall be taught English as a second language, so that they may compete in the global economy. The communist Chinese may be bloody tyrants, but they are not stupid."
One of the few good things that came out of being under the US rule for 50 yrs was teaching us English. And now Filipinos as OFWs and OCWs can apply for any job anywhere because of their knowledge of that language. A move to discontinue teaching Spanish in schools and emphasize English was the key.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:07pmOct '10
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I wonder why Mexico hasnt started teaching their young kids English in PUBLIC schools as a second language? Since many want to immigrate to the US and get a job there (and maybe even become a US citizen someday), isnt this a good start?
Aug '10
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LINO?
I liked it better when they called me coconut. At least that was witty.
I onced managed to sit through 10 minutes of Atzlan jibber-jabber in a MECha meeting at Pomona College back in the day. I got he hell out there. I was amazed that any one would take them seriously.
I am getting educated by VDH's Mexifornia (via Audible). I am only 45 minutes in and I had no idea how ignorant I was on this issue.
So two questions from an admittedly ignorant and squishy coconut.
Would it be politically expedient to send Tom Tancredo on an extended fact finding tour of the depths Yucca Mountain come the fall of 2012?
Can we win without the RINO/LINO's if we don't?
Nov '10
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Lady Kurobara:
Also, it is worth pointing out that, while Geraldo's father was Puerto Rican, his mother was descended from Russian Jews. In fact, Geraldo had a Jewish upbringing, complete with Bar Mitzvah. The simple fact is, "Jerry" became "Geraldo" and cynically cashed in on his Latino paternity in order to advance his career.
As long as I am beating up on Geraldo, let me add this: Someone really ought to take him aside and gently inform him that the thing under his nose (which we dignify by calling a "moustache") makes him look more like an aging 70s porn star than an "authentic" Latino.
Than again, this is the same guy who wrote a sleazy tell-all about his sex life, so maybe the moustache is appropriate. You can read all about it for a penny:
http://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Myself-Geraldo-Rivera/dp/0553298747/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289889930&sr=1-4
Interestingly, Geraldo's entry in the Wikipedia does not even mention this book. Maybe he is ashamed of it. He ought to be.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:53pmRe: Al Sharpton: Republican Latinos are LINOs
John Marzan: "If the GOP would just abandon, or more realistically moderate its currently noxious immigration politics, and policies like the English-only nonsense"
do you agree with this diane?
We'd have to define what "this" is. I do think that immigration is a noxious subject in general for the GOP, in that it not only divides the Party, but it also scares away many Hispanics who might otherwise be open to hearing and supporting conservative ideas. Personally, I'm of the "let's secure our borders and set up a guest worker program that affords American businesses the labor that they need" camp. As has come up in other threads, my own mother (a Mexican immigrant) and many of her siblings benefited from the Reagan amnesty, so this is generally a topic that I find very interesting and yet difficult to sort out for myself.
The English-only stuff? Yes, yes folks should learn English. But look, kids of immigrants who grow up in the States do learn English. Their parents have a much harder time at it. (And that's typical of every immigrant group -- not just Mexicans). I think the English-only propositions, while they often make good sense, come across as hostile and xenophobic. Not the way to go if you're trying to persuade a group of people to take your political philosophy serious.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:39pmRe: Al Sharpton: Republican Latinos are LINOs
Louie Mungaray:
I onced managed to sit through 10 minutes of Atzlan jibber-jabber in a MECha meeting at Pomona College back in the day. I got he hell out there. I was amazed that any one would take them seriously.
Ha! I had a very similar experience at a MEChA meeting at Dartmouth. But I probably only lasted 5 minutes. Those folks were nuttier than the sort that believe in aliens (of the extraterrestrial variety).
Oct '10
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"We'd have to define what "this" is. I do think that immigration is a noxious subject in general for the GOP, in that it not only divides the Party, but it also scares away many Hispanics who might otherwise be open to hearing and supporting conservative ideas. Personally, I'm of the "let's secure our borders and set up a guest worker program that affords American businesses the labor that they need" camp. As has come up in other threads, my own mother (a Mexican immigrant) and many of her siblings benefited from the Reagan amnesty, so this is generally a topic that I find very interesting and yet difficult to sort out for myself."
it is a terrible subject for the mostly white GOP. i think they are right on principle: Secure the borders first. Everything else comes second (whether it's amnesty, Guest worker prg). But if the dems can paint them as racists, then it's a going to hurt the Republicans in the long run. Somebody needs to do a study whether the Nicky Diaz story hurt Meg Whitman.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 11:20pmOct '10
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"The English-only stuff? Yes, yes folks should learn English. But look, kids of immigrants who grow up in the States do learn English. Their parents have a much harder time at it. (And that's typical of every immigrant group -- not just Mexicans). I think the English-only propositions, while they often make good sense, come across as hostile and xenophobic. Not the way to go if you're trying to persuade a group of people to take your political philosophy serious."
if you are immigrating to another country, you have to learn that country's language and assimilate to their culture. angela merkel made a recent speech about this not so long ago. I have no problems with English-only. It doesnt mean I can't speak other languages among friends or at home.
but you are right about immigrants' parents having a harder time learing the language. I notice over here that the illegals coming from china have that same problem. but at least their kids have adopted some of the ways of the local culture and language. and overall, the chinese have been a net positive to the economy.
Edited on Nov 15, 2010 at 11:56pmMay '10
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If I referred to Sharpton with the terms that define his relationship with the Democratic Party I would be banned from Ricochet....
Nov '10
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You have piqued my curiosity, John. Years ago, I discovered filipino komiks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_comics
They impressed me in two ways. First of all, the artwork is exceptionally good – even better than American comics. Second, they are published in Tagalog (using Roman letters). So, as much as I enjoyed the artwork, I was unable to follow the stories.
Is Tagalog easy to learn? Is it fun to use?
Edited on Nov 16, 2010 at 4:08amMay '10
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I take heart in what this quote says about the right side of the conservative spectrum"
Not quite the rage filled racists the Left (Rev Al especially) would portray us as, eh? I doubt that Al intended to point out who the truly color-blind party is, so lets just chalk it up to Freudian slip....
May '10
Re: Al Sharpton: Republican Latinos are LINOs
What immigration policy wouldn't be noxious to some, short of "open the southern border, immediate full citizenship for all?"
Center-right opinion seems to be "close the border, build the fence, then let's talk."
Oct '10
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"Is Tagalog easy to learn? Is it fun to use?"
I don't know if it's easy for foreigners to learn this language. Besides, you don't need to learn it if you want to communicate with other Pinoys since the 2 official languages in the Philippines are English and Filipino (ie Tagalog). [uh oh, biligual... ;)]
May '10
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Also, there are Girl Scout cookies named after it, so it must be fun.
Geraldo clearly thinks one isn't a true hispanic without a ridiculous bandito stache, like Raul Grijvalda (sp?).
Sadly, I'm a Wizard in Name Only.