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The Young Guns
August 2, 2012 at 10:43pm
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The Young Guns request your presence at a very special event: a podcast on the eve of Diane Ellis' nuptials. To celebrate, Diane, Troy, Meghan, and Keith discuss Chick-fil-A (no, they are not catering Diane's wedding), how they became conservatives, who is a Washington elitist/insider and who is not, and the Olympics. Also, we reveal what tune the bride and groom will dance to for the first time as husband and wife. 

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The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

I fully approve of your first dance song selection. When my jazz band director renewed his vows at 30 years this was one of the songs we played at the reception. He graced his blushing bride by picking up the soprano sax for the first time in decades and serenading her. It was perfect.

Indaba
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Apr '12

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Indaba

Moving first dance music. Congratulations!

The King Prawn
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Dec '10

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The King Prawn

The Chick-fil-A discussion made me immediately think of this.

Glenn the Iconoclast
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Apr '11

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Glenn the Iconoclast

Do we need to wait until the ceremony is in the books before congratulating the bride (and groom)?

Leslie Watkins
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Sep '10

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Leslie Watkins

I assume Meghan knows this, since she's mentioned Laura Ingalls Wilder twice now, but in case she doesn't, her daughter was Rose Wilder Lane, author of the 1943 libertarian classic The Discovery of Freedom, and from what I've read, it was Rose who encouraged her mother to write the Little House books about life on the prairie.

Edited on August 3, 2012 at 2:25am
Sean
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Apr '11

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Sean

The secret menu quesedilla has to be Chipotle (and everyone knows about this)

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Troy Senik, Ed.
Sean: The secret menu quesedilla has to be Chipotle (and everyone knows about this) · 1 minute ago

Insult to injury, Sean. Some of us are strict constructionists when it comes to the menu! [sulks]

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Rob Long

Perhaps we should take a page from the Obama '12 campaign and suggest that wellwishers who want to honor our own Diane Ellis on her wedding day should do so by joining Ricochet.

Too tacky?

Is there such a thing as too tacky?

dreamlarge
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Nov '10

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dreamlarge

Rob, you're too cute to be too tacky.  

eh....Diane, all the best.   Unsolicited advice:  go to bed at the same time.  

xo

Busy System Admin
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Feb '10

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Busy System Admin

Congratulations to Diane!  I wish you the best and a lifelong happy marriage.

SMatthewStolte
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Feb '11

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SMatthewStolte

I would prefer a middle to an aisle. 

Steven Potter
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Aug '10

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Steven Potter

Congratulations to Diane and her husband!  May God bless your marriage.  Here's to a long, fulfilling, and joyous marriage for the two of you.  Cheers!

genferei
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genferei

Most importantly, congratulations Diane.

National Sports Fans

Second, re: Keith's vaunting of periodic sporting nationalism: in most of the world, there is a constant stream of international competition, not just every four years. If you play sports the rest of the world does you get to wrap yourself in the flag several times a season. This is not always edifying.

Hockey Club Fans

(Not that you need a national flag to be a hooligan...)

Finally, the debate over 'establishment' was interesting, but I'm sure Ted Cruz had more to say for himself than the single word 'anti-establishment'. (Of course, the entirety of the Young Guns are members of the establishment - they just happen to be in the part that is out of power for this cycle.)

FWIW, Wikipedia puts it thusly:

The Establishment is a term used to refer to a visible dominant group or elite that holds power or authority in a nation. The term suggests a closed social group which selects its own members (as opposed to selection by inheritance, merit or election).

Kevin P
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Kevin Peterson

I think it was Tony who made a point early about being libertarian on marriage, and yet later went on a rant about athletes and moral behavior.

Why not be libertarian about Tom Brady's choice to have a child out of wedlock?
Isn't marriage and the State deciding who can marry a moral statement as well? 

GOVICIDE
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Mar '11

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GOVICIDE

I can't explain how shocked I am that I'm going to say something nice about one of Meghan's points. I usually find her opinions to be just this side of snooty. But, she nailed the Establishment discussion and had Keith on the ropes as he himmed and hawed about how Cruz got away with pasting the label on Dewhurst. Granted, it sounded to me like Meghan may have been a Dewhurst fan and didn't like her candidate losing. But, her point was correct nonetheless. So, if I may expound on your point, Meghan . . . 

The reason we need a definition for "the Establishment" is because, first, we conservatives believe words mean things. Second, without a clear definition it has become a potent weapon against our favorite enemy: ourselves. Third, if we can't define it, then liberals certainly will, to our detriment.

Having said all that, I thought the four's stabs at defining it were off. As just a guy out here with a podcast, I've thought it meant well-known conservatives who believe that compromising with liberals is the best way to further the conservative agenda. And nothing to do with their higher education.  


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with me where I am

Troy Senik, Ed.

Sean: The secret menu quesedilla has to be Chipotle (and everyone knows about this) · 1 minute ago

Insult to injury, Sean. Some of us are strict constructionists when it comes to the menu! [sulks] · 16 hours ago

Troy, perhaps secret menus are like voting for a candidate on a dog-whistle issue. Just a thought.

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Troy Senik, Ed.

Kevin Peterson: I think it was Tony who made a point early about being libertarian on marriage, and yet later went on a rant about athletes and moral behavior.

Why not be libertarian about Tom Brady's choice to have a child out of wedlock?
Isn't marriage and the State deciding who can marry a moral statement as well?  · 3 hours ago

That was indeed me (not Tony. He's dead. We killed him.). I don't see the disjuncture unless you equate political libertarianism with moral libertinism (and, alas, there is a subset of libertarians that think that way). Indeed, we are libertarian about fly-by-night fatherhood like Tom Brady's. Nobody is seeking to criminalize it, though there are, of course, legal obligations for child support (as there should be).

I'm not a capital-L Libertarian by a long shot, but my thinking on most issues does start at the same place that theirs does: does government have a legitimate role to play here? Answering that question in the negative doesn't preclude passing moral judgments on the same topic.

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Troy Senik, Ed.
SMatthewStolte: I would prefer a middle to an aisle.  · 13 hours ago

Interesting. I'm assuming this has to do with not taking a beverage cart to the elbow or being subject to the posteriors of people getting out of their seats. But would you prefer to it a window? I've yet to meet the person who has an absolute preference for the middle.

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Jonathan Horn

Best wishes, Diane!

Whiskey Sam
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Jul '10

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Whiskey Sam

In N Out burger secret menu: ask for the Flying Dutchman


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