A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
There's already been some controversy surrounding "The Good Wife's" last episode, whereby a character is tainted in court as racist by being a member of the Tea Party. Gary Cole plays a conservative ballistics expert who is NOT portrayed as an idiot and Christine Baranski is a Liberal who is in love with him and willing to defend him in court. They even allow Cole's character to explain the basic tenant of the Tea Party without derision...as a movement aimed at forcing both parties to reduce spending. So far so good. Except they try to smear his reputation by including him in a picture of a Tea Party rally where some numbnut holds up a sign "Go back to the jungle," inferring it refers to our Commander-in-Chief. Having never attended a Tea Party rally, I'd like to know from fellow Ricos who have how many of these kinds of signs they've actually seen at rallies. And be honest if you have...there's fringe wackos in all movements. Just look at some of the nutso signs you see in Wisconsin.
As a side note they are also have a story line where Juliana Marguilies' daughter is becoming interested in Christianity through a teen on-line evangelist. So far they've treated the issue with respect, but the kid leading the movement is a little creepy and cult-like, so I'll be curious to see where liberal Hollywood ends up with this one.
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Nov '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I wish some empirically-minded team of social scientists would representatively photograph Tea Party / Pro-Union rallies, and do a content analysis of all signs captured, to settle definitively the issue of how absolutely or relatively racists or uncivil such rallies are, and what issues they represent.
May '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've never been to a tea party. Apparently there are some here.
May '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
Yikes. It's not surprising that unsavory groups would try to latch themselves onto whatever movement they perceive themselves as aligned with, but I think the key is how the majority of Tea Partiers react. They can't beat them up, of course, but they should try to make it clear that the Tea Party doesn't support that stuff.
This is part of the problem with organically-formed groups... it's almost impossible to enforce a message, because everyone involved has a different interpretation of it.
Dec '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
The unsavory signs at TEA Party rallies tend to be carried by followers of Lyndon LaRouche, who've tried to latch onto the movement. Here in my hometown of Moraga, CA, a small suburb of Oakland, the LaRouchies have taken to anti-Obama protest vigils outside the Post Office.
A good source to compare Left and TEA Party protests is the zombietime site and zomblog run by the anonymous (for reason of death threats) blogger zombie. S/he also posts on Pajamas Media.
Oct '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
It seems that we are doomed by our need to define by categorization. There is no Tea Party. The so-called Tea Party is a grass roots movement made up of individuals who have coalesced in local to regional geographic areas around ideas of fiscal responsibility and limited government. As such, there is no doubt in my mind there are people with racist ideas and tendencies. However, based on the general lack of signage and verbiage, the general ethic of the movement has been one of respecting the equality of individuals without regard to race or religion.
May '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
Poor try, Robert.
Jun '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
"Proof That The TEA Party IS NOT Racist: How To Deal With TEA Party Infiltrators."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYfmShJe5MA
Jun '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've been to three Tea Parties in Santa Fe. I saw not one racist sign. We did have a dumb kid show up in Nazi regalia, but as per Etoi above, the patriot side was prepared with signs that said "Not One of Us." The doofus was surrounded and then heckled until he left the event.
Sep '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
ZERO in ABQ.
Oct '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I suffered through half of that video, and the vast, vast majority of signs that I saw were not racist. They weren't Sunday School sentiments, but they weren't racist.
May '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've been to three rallys in the Chicagoland area and never seen any racist signs (albeit any criticism of President Obama is considered by some to be racist). I don't recall seeing any "Hitler" or similar signs either.
And the tea-partiers cleaned up after themselves.
Sep '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
Regarding the Video.
The first sign at 0:00 "Obama plan is white slavery" and the sign at 2:06 is the same person at the same rally (assuming it is not photoshopped). In any case they are showing the same person twice.
Second sign at 0:15 "Amer. taxpayers are jews for Obamas ovens" notice the orange jacket. Lo and behold the third sign at 0:25 we see the orange arms holding another sign Obama is Hitler. Again Same guy.
If it is so easy to find racism at the tea party why the need to show the same people multiple times. And then why take and show the pictures so that it is hard to tell it is the same guy.
Oh and the "Brownest thing on the block" guy with the Listen to Bob Marley T shirt is not a tea party. The Obama '08 as Mr. T sign is clearly before the tea party movement started.
Jul '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've been to a few rallies here in Washington State.
By my definition of Racist (that being the suposition of superior/inferior ideas/abilities being inherent in specific racial groups) there have been a total of ZERO Racist signs at the rallies.
Mind you, the mainstream media definition of Racist is, and has been for some time, winning an argument with a liberal. Under that definition, LOTS! (Note: This dovetails with Hate being defined as simply disagreeing with any liberal position.)
Mind you the makeup of the crowds is based on individual decisions, and No One was denied access to become a member of the tea parties. That said, I still saw cosmopolitian crowds at the tea party rallies I did attend. A lot more cosmopolitian than the Lilly White crowds I'm seeing protesting on television in Madison Wisconson.
Edited on Feb 26, 2011 at 2:44pmNov '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
Ross Conatser
Regarding the Video.
"The first sign at 0:00 "Obama plan is white slavery" and the sign at 2:06 is the same person at the same rally .... "
· Feb 26 at 2:32pm
Ross, thanks for that. Good eye.
More generally, the question of racism in the tea party movement (I refuse to even capitalize the T and the P, because that makes us look more organized than we are) is leading. Asking if racism is more common at tea parties than anywhere else is like asking if men at an astronomer's convention have a greater-than-average amount of facial hair. They don't have anything to do with each other.
The only reason the question even comes up is because of a slander that the left is trying to perpetuate.
Edited on Feb 26, 2011 at 3:59pmNov '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've been to three "Tea Parties". I have never seen or heard a racist remark.
Furthermore, I think the Left is making a big mistake ascribing racism to these people. Most Tea Partiers are new to activism, and when the "race card" is played against them, they come to realize how recklessly "racism" is ascribed.
Ironically this may turn out to the end of racial politics.
Dec '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I only went to the first tea party rally held in our community on tax day, 2009. Not only were there no signs of racism anywhere, but there were several blacks in attendance in this mostly white community and the black conservative speaker got some of the loudest cheers when he quoted JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you..." speech. As some talking-head has said, almost everyone there looked like the kind of person you'd ask to watch your baby for a few minutes while you ran across the street for a cup of coffee.
The vilest and most hateful message I heard came from the four high school boys who were allowed (encouraged?) to cut class from the high school across the street to mount a "counter" protest. Ain't it grand what the kiddies learn in public school these days?!
Oct '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I was at the 9/12 march on Washington in 2009.The crowd was about as everyday American as you could get, but there were some fringe elements.I didn't see anything remotely racist, but there were a small amount of conspiracy theorist types trying to educate people about how the Bilderberg Group was doing...something awful. I wasn't really paying attention. They were nice enough people, but clearly wingnuts.
The other odd thing was that one of the speakers (and this was hard to hear because the sound system was awful) somehow decided to lecture the "guards" about how the Capital was for the people. I assume this was directed at the United States Capitol Police. It was a stupid statement regardless of who it was directed at in the end. The Capitol Police were very helpful and a good bunch. It's quite a contrast between the police in Libya who might very well try and kill you if you launch a mass protest against the government and the US Capitol Police who work hard to make sure no one gets hit by a car.
Edited on Feb 26, 2011 at 5:04pmDec '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I have been to three Tea Party gatherings in DC plus the Glenn Beck Rally. The common characteristic of each, was kindness. These were ordinary people gathered at their own expense from all over the country. They were all large crowds the like of which I had never experienced. The people were polite and friendly in the extreme and represented the best patriotic Fourth of July spirit.
The signs were imaginative, some humorous, some clever, and a few might be called tasteless. I saw none that were "racist" by any reasonable standard.
There is not room here to adequately describe these events. Let is suffice to say that they were the exact opposite of what we are seeing in Wisconsin and Indiana.
Dec '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I've been to tea party rallies in Tyler, Dallas, and San Antonio. I saw no signs that could even be called into question. Now I may not be the most observant person, but I've heard that Texas is stock full of racists. Seems like I'd have seen at least one or two.
Denise, the world is full of liars. Go look for yourself.
Nov '10
Re: A Question to Our Tea Partiers...How Many Racist Signs Have You Seen at Rallies?
I went to a small, local tea party in southern MD, followed by the April 15th, Tax Day tea party in Lafayette Park in DC in 2009. I saw nothing even remotely racist at either. Everyone at each was very patriotic, cheerful towards each other, and seemed united by a common cause that transcended any other demographic.