Troy Senik, Ed. · August 7, 2012 at 9:30pm
Christie

Late last week, The Weekly Standard ran an editorial advising Mitt Romney to "go bold" with his choice of running mate, with special emphasis placed on the attractiveness of Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio as potential number twos. Now comes this interesting addition:

As of Friday, when we wrote the editorial, we’d been led to believe [Chris] Christie wasn't in serious consideration. We now have reason to think he may be. So to be clear: We'd certainly include him with Ryan and Rubio as potential gold medal finalists. As to choosing among the three of them? A photo finish. But choosing a VP candidate who will help Romney run a big, forward looking campaign—that is not a close call.

OK, Ricochetti: as the beating heart of the conservative moment, it only seems right that you be the tie-breakers. If your choices for the final three are Christie, Ryan, and Rubio, who would you prefer?

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1967mustangman
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ConservativeWanderer

ParisParamus: At this point, I think Obama is failing so miserably, Romney could win with any of the top contenders.  I think we're simply waiting for the choice so that we can react and create the specifics our own little psychological response to the new reality · 3 minutes ago

If they ran a halfway decent campaign, a GOP ticket of Elmer Fudd and Daffy Duck could beat Obumbler. · 15 minutes ago

"Bill Clinton will lose to any Republican who doesn't drool on stage." -- The Wall Street Journal, in a 1995 editorial.

Although in this case I think you are more right than they were.  

For my money it would be Ryan.  

Erik Larsen
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Erik Larsen

Susana Martinez    ;)

Crow's Nest
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Crow's Nest

Ryan, Rubio, Christie.

FloppyDisk90
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BrentB67 · 52 minutes ago

  1. Cong. Ryan
  2. Sen. Rubio
  3. Gov. Christie

Ditto


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A.J. Chianese
Edited on March 3, 2013 at 9:27pm
Douglas
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Douglas

Only one guy on that list even deserves Veep consideration, and that's Ryan. Christie is entertaining but wrong on a whole slew of social issues, and Rubio is too wet behind the ears.

James Of England
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BrentB67 · 24 minutes ago

  1. Cong. Ryan
  2. Sen. Rubio
  3. Gov. Christie

I agree. I'd characterize my list as "in increasing order of disappointment".

Ryan doesn't need to be VP to be front and center and does more good in the House. Selfishly, Rubio gives me nightmares. He would lead to excessive discussion of inexperienced identity politics picks, which would lead to endless painful conversations about Palin, and his LDS past would lead to even more gritting my teeth through horrible conversations with terrible people.

Christie is great on unions, and is pretty close to Mitt. I want him to be more prominent in the campaign (particularly in the Mid-West), but I'm not so hot for a Christie Presidency and he'd make it awfully hard to seal the deal with conservatives.

concerned citizen
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concerned citizen

Ryan.  

I love Rubio, very promising future, but agree with others that we need to give him more time in the Senate, and maybe even wait for him to be governor of FL.  Then he'll be really ready -- to run for the top slot.  

Interestingly, I just came over from NRO where they have a veep poll.  (I voted for Ryan.)  It's currently Rubio 42%, Ryan 29%, Christie 7%, Jindal 12%.  

Richard Fulmer
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Ryan.  Romney needs to leave us with a conservative heir apparent.  Reagan's worst legacy was George H. W. Bush. 

Douglas
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ConservativeWanderer

If they ran a halfway decent campaign, a GOP ticket of Elmer Fudd and Daffy Duck could beat Obumbler. · 56 minutes ago

I keep reading stuff like this at Ricochet, and I simply don't think it's true. The advantage is still clearly in Obama's court. It's all about the swing votes, and all Obama has to do is be non-offensive to squeak by into a second term. Obama still comes off as likable, and Romney still comes off as cardboard-ish at times. Everyone is talking about how Obama is under 50 percent in swing states, but Romney is still lower than Obama in those same states. If it comes down to a case of "the devil you know", Obama will win handily. Romney just can't seem to get those voters to flip for him, at least not yet. There's still time, but let's not fool ourselves here. It's still advantage: Obama.

billy
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All three need to keep the jobs they have.

EJHill
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EJHill

If the VP could also head up the Office of Management and Budget - Ryan hands down.

Kenneth Gauck
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Kenneth Gauck

The Vice Presidency is not worth a bucket of warm spit. We should not remove any figure actually accomplishing anything useful. The job is for the amiable but ineffective, or someone who is at the end of their career in politics. 

Keep Ryan in the House, keep Rubio in the Senate. 

Mont McNeil
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billy: All three need to keep the jobs they have. · 0 minutes ago

I think Ryan could do much more for the cause of fiscal rectitude as President of the Senate than as House Budget Committee Chairman.  And that's the only issue in this campaign.

James Of England
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ParisParamus:   I'm concerned Portman isn't media/spontanaety-tested. · 48 minutes ago

If you mean in the debates, Portman's more spontaneity tested than any other candidate. The last three GOP candidates all picked him as their mock debate partner because he's magnificent at it (although for Dole it was a senate race debate, with Fred Thompson training him for the real thing); no one else viable has any experience at that level.

If you mean outside the debates, I'm not sure that caution is a bad thing. Spur of the moment quips that make a big difference, rather than pre-written great lines, in a non-debate context, are rarely positive. They might make people smile, but random encounters on the campaign trail are terrible places for creativity. If you doubt Portman's ability to avoid saying anything off message, you're clearly unfamiliar with him. If you think that he should be saying things that are off message, we're not on the same page.

FightinInPhilly
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Republic of Texas: Ryan.  Rubio needs several more years seasoning.  Although I admire Christie's accomplishments given the environment in New Jersy, his political philosophy is more pragmatist than conservative which is NOT what is needed at this time. · 55 minutes ago

Agree. As a close observer of Christie (he's only a few miles away and my wife, as a NJ teacher is predisposed to think he's a horrible person) I must emphasize to my friends around the country that he is a creature very much of Jersey (where I was born and raised.) His success comes in state where being a bit obnoxious is seen as funny. The fact that he's telling the truth is a bonus. I don't see this translating across the country. Rubio is still too young- as I like to tell my lib friends- look what happened the last time we trusted a young, articulate, good looking first term senator. I know thats unfair, I love Rubio, but lets not get caught in that argument. Ryan truly understands the issues. But I worry about pulling him from the senate and quarterbacking the necessary legislation. 

billy
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Mont McNeil

billy: All three need to keep the jobs they have. · 0 minutes ago

I think Ryan could do much more for the cause of fiscal rectitude as President of the Senate than as House Budget Committee Chairman.  And that's the only issue in this campaign. · 9 minutes ago

I couldn't disagree more. As Budget chairman, all federal spending must pass under his green eyeshades. He can slow down or fast track any spending program, and there is nothing that gets done without his cooperation.

As President of the Senate he gets a good seat for the State of the Union Address.

And he gets to break tie votes.

DrewInWisconsin
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NPR: One Clue To Romney's Veep Pick: Whose Wiki Page Is Getting The Most Edits?

In 2008, as The Washington Post wrote at the time, "just hours before [Sen. John] McCain declared his veep choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, her Wiki page saw a flurry of activity, with editors adding details about her approval rating and husband's employment. ... Palin's entry was updated at least 68 times, with at least an additional 54 changes made to her entry over the preceding five days."

Meanwhile, the Post said, "on Aug. 22, the day before the Obama campaign officially named [then-Sen. Joe] Biden as the veep pick, Biden's Wiki page garnered roughly 40 changes. Over the five days prior, users would make at least 111 other changes to his entry."

The obvious — in hindsight — implications of the Wiki activity: Aides were going into the entries to tune them up and clean out any material that was either embarrassing or erroneous.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

Continued from above.

So what's going on now with some of those said to be among the leading possibilities to be joining Mitt Romney on the Republican ticket?

Ohio Sen. Rob Portman's Wiki page has been revised 16 times so far today, by someone called "River8009."

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio's Wiki page has been revised nine times so far today and 11 times from Aug. 2-6.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty's Wiki page has been tweaked four times today.

Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's Wiki page has been edited once today, and 11 times from Aug. 2-6.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's Wiki page hasn't been edited today, but was revised eight times from Aug. 3-4.

New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte's Wiki page has not been touched today. It was last revised on July 28.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's Wiki page hasn't been revised since July 24.

Edited on August 7, 2012 at 11:21pm
Leigh
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Ryan.  Rubio would be fine with me.  Christie would not be fine.

(Jindal is in a near-tie with Ryan on my preference list.)

It sounds like we have a clear majority opinion.  Let the campaign know that Ricochet has spoken!

 But what happened to Pawlenty and Portman?  I'm guessing that in reality one of them has moved to the top of the list, just because we're not talking about them.


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