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The three news items on the major Sunday news shows—Fox News Sunday, Meet the Press, and This Week—were the economy, Afghanistan, and the “Rangel conundrum,” as Christiane Amanpour, the new host of This Week, put it. The Arizona immigration bill got a shout too.
Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace hosted Sarah Palin, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. Then panelists Bill Kristol, Juan Williams, Ceci Connolly, and Liz Cheney weighed in on the issues.
Christiane Amanpour debuted as the host of This Week, appearing sometimes softspoken as she interviewed Nancy Pelosi, Robert Gates, and her panel of commentators (Paul Krugman, George Will, and Donna Brazile).
On Meet the Press, David Gregory spoke to Adm. Mike Mullen about Afghanistan. Then, Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Alan Greenspan, and Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell talked economics.
The rundown's below the fold!
Arizona: Obama Has No Cojones
On FNS, Palin didn’t swerve too far from GOP talking points on the show—“We have a jobless recovery and that’s no recovery in the minds of most Americans”—but she did use some colorful language when discussing the Arizona immigration law.
Palin is of course a proponent of the Arizona law. She told Chris Wallace, “Jan Brewer has the cajones that our president does not have to look out for all Americans in this desire of ours to secure our borders and allow legal immigration as was the intent of our country.” She understandably didn’t dive into a legal defense of her argument—that the law does not promote racial profiling nor does it infringe upon federal duties, contra the Arizona judge’s argument—but Palin did seem satisfied, perhaps naively so, that the injunction ordered by the Arizona judge on key parts of the law was temporary.
Jobs and the Economy: Austerity Proponents “have to have a way to make people suffer more”—Paul Krugman
Should the Bush tax cuts stay or go? Pelosi held her ground about expiring the Bush tax cuts, saying the tax cuts don’t increase jobs.
Alan Greenspan, speaking today on Meet the Press, also opposed these particular tax cuts, saying, “I’m very much in favor of tax cuts but not with borrowed money.” Greenspan held, contra Sarah Palin’s argument today on FNS, that tax cuts do not pay for themselves.
Pelosi also told Amanpour that the stimulus bill was a job creator that helped cut the unemployment rate from what it otherwise would have been. Speaking on Meet the Press, Mayor Michael Bloomberg questioned that belief, saying “this stimulus bill started with rebate check … that went to flat screen TVs made in China.” He also said that the money given to government in the bill was “used for operating [expenses], not investing.”
The bottom line, Bloomberg seemed to argue, is that the stimulus was most certainly not a job creator.
Some, like Bloomberg, say the stimulus did not work, others, as George Will argued this morning, think that we need to enter a period of fiscal austerity. And still others, like the rambling Krugman, who was sitting next to Will on This Week, think we need more stimulus, and more government spending. He said “people have got this austerity notion in their mind …. And it appeals to people because they have to have a way to make people suffer more.”
McConnell weighed in on FNS: “Let me tell you how not to stimulate the economy…their [Democrats’] signature job effort was to extend unemployment.”
Republican Strategy: Focus on Policy, Not Rangel
Boehner and McConnell spoke mostly about the economy, though when the issue of Charlie Rangel’s ethics charges came up, Boehner took a defined stance against Rangel while McConnell kept a cool distance from the issue, saying Democrats’ biggest issue is they’re “spending too much, taxing too much” and promoting job killing policies. This echoed Bill Kristol’s remarks on the show later, during the panel, when he said that the Republicans would be stupid to “harp on this” and should “focus on policy” instead in the lead-up to November.
Juan Williams, speaking on the FNS panel, spun the Rangel issue in terms of race: “It becomes highly racial … Rangel is black, Waters is black … the Congressional Black Caucus says ethics people go after black people.” Someone should alert the black caucus that very white Sen. John Ensign is in talks with the Senate ethics committee—and a grand jury—for a sex and lobbying scandal, a story covered by The Hill, TPM, and other outlets. Yet Krugman, speaking today on This Week, strangely bemoaned the fact that Ensign’s scandal was getting no press. He also called the charges being leveled against Rangel “petty.”
Looking forward to November, Chris Wallace pointed out to McConnell that the Democrats might try to paint the Republicans as obstructionists—they voted against extending unemployment, against financial regulatory reform, and against extending lending to small businesses, a bill that McConnell called “another TARP.”
Nancy Pelosi, speaking on This Week, echoed Wallace’s point, saying that Republicans have spent the last 18 months campaigning while Democrats have spent that time legislating.
Afghanistan/WikiLeaks: Did Julian Assange aid and abet al Qaeda?
Afghanistan was another hot news item this morning.
Amanpour, speaking to Robert Gates, asked him about the timetable to withdraw US troops in 18 months time. She noted that the Taliban is running out the clock. It is telling Afghans that the Americans are leaving in 18 months, so who will the Afghans turn to come month 19? Gates soberly said, “We will be there in 19 months and we will be there with a lot of troops.”
Pelosi, for her part, provided a realpolitik rebuttal to Amanpour’s concerns about the fate of the Afghan people. Amanpour asked her if the United States was going to abandon Afghanistan, especially the oppressed women of that country, such as the woman pictured on this week’s Time cover. Pelosi said, “we’re in Afghanistan because it is in our own national interest to be there ....our own national security.”
On FNS, the most interesting remark about Afghanistan came from Liz Cheney, who thinks that Obama should move aggressively to shut down WikiLeaks, the site that leaked thousands of documents about the war. She added that Julian Assange, the site’s founder, should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting al Qaeda.
I’m not sure if the entire site should be shut down—there’s a place for whistleblowers in a democracy, and WikiLeaks reports on issues other than national security—but perhaps Assange should pull the war documents from the site. On the other hand, the damage has already been done.
George Will, speaking on This Week, said the leak was “lethal without being helpful.”