I listened to the most recent podcast with Mike Murphy and I'm sorry to say he deserves some serious pushback.
First, I have to disagree with Rob Long, someone I greatly admire and take great pleasure in reading and listening to on the podcasts, but Mike Murphy isn't mixing it up with anyone. He is hiding and lobbing rhetorical grenades from afar.
Murphy begins at around 35 minutes in the podcast,
I will say, eh, gently in hindsight, I will say I was absolutely damn straight correct! (laughter) and I'm going to raise a little more ricochet blood pressure here cause I'm not a conservative concerned with being in a debating society I'm a conservative (that wants to) save the country.. The big theory was, one, you RINOs don't get it, you don't understand the secret grassroots tea party magnetism and shes going to win and everything..well, She was a fiasco, she lost and she lost big...
What was Murphy correct about? That O'Donnell would lose? Well, if that is his assertion then he is making a straw man argument. No one in the entire thread of 160 odd comments said they thought she would win. Was he correct that O'Donnell was a flawed candidate? Again, every comment stipulated that she was less than ideal to seriously flawed. The argument was a larger one, one which Murphy is either blind to or convieniently dismisses and has a viscerally defensive reaction to.
The main thrust of the argument, at least my argument, was that the fault for O'Donnell lies squarely on the GOP insiders and Castle himself, and to blame the voters for rejecting him, or to bash the tea party folk is missing the point. This is especially maddening coming from someone who is supposed to understand politics. Beyond this, I fail to see how lecturing voters for rejecting Castle on this basis helps the Republican party in any way. Does Murphy believe that these party purists, as he calls them, are going to pine for a Mike Castle because they nominated the wrong gal last time?
Two, I'm mad at Jim De Mint and Sarah Palin. You don't go into a primary and activate it, stir it up and cause a less electable candidate and then ditch the state and never come back. Totally irresponsible ....
I don't really think Murphy really believes this. Had Palin and De Mint moved into a Hampton Inn in Dover for six weeks I doubt the outcome would have been any different, would it have Mike?
Murphy then goes onto to cite Sharon Angle and Kirk of Colorado as similar, though not exact, examples
...we had three winnable seats that we decided to get on team Harry Ried and beat ourselves. So she didn't win, and the RINO knucklehead Washington consultants who don't know anything were right in 3 out of 3 cases and the argument, that's more legitimate but I still disagree with, which is that we are going to hold our breath until we get party purity is a great strategy to have political relevance in 150 years.
Mike Murphy knows how to pack a lot into thirty seconds, I guess he writes TV ads for a living, but seriously, he starts out by talking about three seats, neither the Nevada seat nor the Colorado seat was guaranteed to go GOP had Mike's preferred candidates won their primaries. Cherry picking the races after the fact in glib assertions may fool some folks in a media contest, I don't know, but it doesn't work with thoughtful people. Conspicuously absent in this construct were Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Pat Toomey.
The going to hold our breath until we get party purity line is a neat reduction of the opposing argument. ...150 years? Really, Mr. Murphy? It has been proven in one election cycle! Marco Rubio instead of Charlie Crist, and Pat Toomey instead of Arlen Specter, and much more evidence in the House 62 seat pick up.
No, Mr. Murphy isn't debating with anyone here but himself.
I really don't think he wants to debate either as he said in the podcast,
I'm not a conservative (concerned with?) being in a debating society, I'm a conservative that (inaudible...wants to) save the country.
We all want to save the country Mike, you aren't alone. So go pursue your next cause but please stop reducing your opponents arguments and then ditch the thread and never come back. Totally irresponsible...