Israel Pickholtz
Posted August 13, 2012 at 10:05am · Important

A fellow I know posted this video on Facebook. He is very pro-Obama in a Warren Buffet sort of way, so he doesn't really luisten to reason, but I'd like to give a rebuittal without getting into a long conversation.  This is clearly rubbish, but does anyone have something we can use to counter it? (Does anyone even know if it's real?)
 
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-cracks-joke-as-71-year-old-citizen-is-forced-to-the-ground-videos/
 

(I asked gop.com early Sunday morning their time, but they have not replied.)

Elizabeth Herring: http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/08/3-things-every-voter-needs-to-know-about-paul-ryans-medicare-reform-plan-in-100-words/

and

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/313757/grasping-medicare-distortion-yuval-levin

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Answer by Natalie

Posted August 13, 2012 at 10:42am

I'm trying to get confirmation on this so don't run with it, but I'm pretty sure that was a fund raiser where he was a key note speaker, and not a town hall meeting.  In which case it would be inappropriate for anyone to just shout out questions while he was speaking.  As far as him having anyone arrested, the organizers of the fundraiser would do that, not Paul Ryan.

Natalie: Still looking for confirmation for you but this event was in Milwaukee, out of Ryan's district, so I'm about 95% sure I'm correct about it being a fundraiser.

Natalie: http://muskego.patch.com/articles/regular-rotary-luncheon-featuring-paul-ryan-draws-protestors-police

Here's the link to the story in Milwaukee Journal Regarding the incident.  It was a rotary club luncheon.

Israel Pickholtz: Thank you.

Natalie: You are most welcome.

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Answer by J. D. Fitzpatrick

Posted August 13, 2012 at 10:58am

Ummm--Ryan can't see them wrestling him to the ground; he just sees them taking the man out of the room. The camera has to peer through a doorway to see the man on the ground. (This accusation of Ryan is not unlike the notorious split-screen video in which George Bush is shown talking and laughing "while" coffins of soldiers are unloaded from a plane.) 

IMHO Ryan's also right to crack a joke in the wake of that bluster, since the man simply hasn't tried to understand his position on entitlements. As I recall, under the Ryan plan, people currently in the system don't see their SS benefits change. As for Medicare, if we don't reform it, we lose it. And unemployment insurance is irrelevant to a senior citizen. If Grandpa had listened politely, he would have found this out. Since his disruption made it impossible for the rest of the audience to hear the scheduled speaker, he was removed. 

Bottom Line: the guy was being rude, a joke was appropriate. That's how good politicians respond to hecklers. 

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Answer by Israel Pickholtz

Posted August 13, 2012 at 12:31pm

Well, I supported all this on my acquaintance's Facebook page and some of his friends have already responded with the expected silliness. Oh well, I did my part. Thanks to both of you.

(One reason I rarely respond to Facebook.)

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