Would You Join a Third Party Founded by Ted Cruz?

I’ve properly taken to task Republicans who–in the heat of the present battle–are still attacking Ted Cruz and thereby effectively adding their voices to the Democrat choir that would blame Republicans for a government shutdown. (Their defeatist prophecy is sadly self-fulfilling.)

For that criticism, I’ve lately been accused of calling for a “purge” of impure Republicans.

Of course, I’ve never called for a purge, but the talk of purges makes me wonder if perhaps I and others like-minded sho…

  1. Astonishing

    I’m exhausted, yet exhilarated.

    The last few days have been too intense, as it seemed to me that everything hung in the balance.

    I’ve spent way too much time hashing things out on Ricochet with the naysayers, begging, cajoling, or shaming them to please just give Cruz a fair shot. (I’ve had to make up the lost time by working long into the night.) I do believe the opinions and arguments we post here do make their way out into the wider world, where they have their effects.

    With his masterful marathon performance, Cruz has vindicated my faith in himself and in my party.

    Whether or not his filibuster breaks through the media filter in any meaningful way does not really matter, if (as I hope and pray) Cruz has succeeded in re-uniting the party by re-inspiriting the GOP rank-and-file while also winning the grudging respect of its establishment intelligentsia.

    My admiration for my very own Texas Senator Ted Cruz now knows no bounds. Yes, in the morning, after a good night’s sleep, my sober skepticism will revive, but for now, all I can say is, where he leads, I will follow.

  2. DocJay

    Jim, rico, these guys will bring the old guard GOP to its knees. Our party needs a habenero enemy.

  3. Salvatore Padula

    I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader?

  4. Astonishing
    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader?

    Maybe you’re right. But maybe before piling on against one of our own, we should wait to see how this plays out.

  5. Mendel
    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader?

    He’s also filibustering a bill that he himself championed and agrees with.

    But seeing as how most of his supporters are overlooking the messy details of the filibuster and supporting him nonetheless, I’d say that speaks to his abilities as a good leader.

  6. rico
    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader? · 7 minutes ago

    With due respect, you’re missing the point.

    He’s talking. People are listening. He knows the filibuster will fail. That’s his point. Despite the overwhelming case against Obamacare (that he is laying out in great detail) the current crop of Senators is failing to challenge its implementation.

  7. Valiuth
    Mendel

    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader?

    He’s also filibustering a bill that he himself championed and agrees with.

    But seeing as how most of his supporters are overlooking the messy details of the filibuster and supporting him nonetheless, I’d say that speaks to his abilities as a good leader. · 10 minutes ago

    The same might have been said of Jim Jones too. Where is the man leading his people, and who is he getting to follow? 

  8. J.Maestro

    Compared to the Obama “Debt from Above” Suicide Cult, I think Team Cruz is is more like the fearless navy gunners who furiously tried to swat away the kamikaze flyers destroying their vessel.

  9. kylez

    My admiration for my very own Texas Senator Ted Cruz now knows no bounds. Yes, in the morning, after a good night’s sleep, my sober skepticism will revive, but for now, all I can say is, where he leads, I will follow.

    Must be nice. I’ve got Boxer and Feinstein until they die. And no House representation for my views either, though the immediate area I live in is relatively conservative. 

  10. Rightfromthestart

    I’ve been a member of NY State Conservative party since 1968, it’s purpose was to pull the State Republican party back from liberal la la land.  At the time the Liberal Party, mostly founded by commies was, pulling both state parties to the left, giving us Rockefeller, Javits, Lindsay etc.  all liberals as ‘Republicans’ . We need to apply pressure on the right to counter the pull from the media/beltway insiders.     

  11. DrewInWisconsin

    Obligatory “We don’t need a third party, we need a second party” comment. : )

  12. Fred Cole

    Listen to the GLoP podcast out today. It lays out very clearly how Ted Cruz has done a total strategic face plant. I usually don’t follow the day-to-day strategy and tactics stuff, but this Cruz thing was an embarrassing epic fail. And now you want him not just to run for president but to do so via a third party?

  13. Fred Cole

    I mean, damnit, even I know you can’t filibuster budget bills.

  14. DrewInWisconsin
    Fred Cole: Listen to the GLoP podcast out today. It lays out very clearly how Ted Cruz has done a total strategic face plant. I usually don’t follow the day-to-day strategy and tactics stuff, but this Cruz thing was an embarrassing epic fail.

    For whom?

  15. BrentB67
    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader? · 1 hour ago

    Yes, absolutely. If he is successful the democrats in the Senate are going to have to vote against funding the federal government in order to preserve Obamacare.

    Being a leader sometimes mean coloring outside the lines.

  16. BrentB67
    Fred Cole: I mean, damnit, even I know you can’t filibuster budget bills. · 57 minutes ago

    You can’t fillibuster the bill, but the amendment process is another issue. If Sen. Cruz is successful the Senate votes up/down on the House CR as passed. 

    That is a very good thing for our side.

  17. BrentB67
    Mendel

    Salvatore Padula: I would like to point out that, at this very moment, Ted Cruz is attempting to filibuster a bill that cannot be filibustered as a matter of senate rules. Does this make anyone think he would be a particularly successful party leader?

    He’s also filibustering a bill that he himself championed and agrees with.

    But seeing as how most of his supporters are overlooking the messy details of the filibuster and supporting him nonetheless, I’d say that speaks to his abilities as a good leader. · 2 hours ago

    He is threatening to filibuster the amendment process so the bill goes before the Senate without amendment. I am confident he will vote for it then.

    Sen. Cruz has not explained this well and he deserves criticism for his lack of communication and clarity, but he is using the Senate’s rules against it.

    He hasn’t handled it well, but I think his priority and strategy is correct.

  18. Fred Cole
    DrewInWisconsin

    Fred Cole: Listen to the GLoP podcast out today. It lays out very clearly how Ted Cruz has done a total strategic face plant. I usually don’t follow the day-to-day strategy and tactics stuff, but this Cruz thing was an embarrassing epic fail.

    For whom? · 45 minutes ago

    For Cruz.

  19. rico
    Fred Cole: Listen to the GLoP podcast out today. It lays out very clearly how Ted Cruz has done a total strategic face plant. I usually don’t follow the day-to-day strategy and tactics stuff, but this Cruz thing was an embarrassing epic fail. And now you want him not just to run for president but to do so via a third party? · 8 minutes ago

    I haven’t yet heard today’s GLoP but those guys are a barrel of laughs. They’re also really smart guys. But if I was going to voice an “appeal to authority” argument so stridently I’d probably look elsewhere.

  20. BrentB67
    Fred Cole

    DrewInWisconsin

    Fred Cole: Listen to the GLoP podcast out today. It lays out very clearly how Ted Cruz has done a total strategic face plant. I usually don’t follow the day-to-day strategy and tactics stuff, but this Cruz thing was an embarrassing epic fail.

    For whom? · 45 minutes ago

    For Cruz. · in 0 minutes

    I think you will reconsider that statement when the dust settles.

    I think Sen. Cruz is the best friend republicans in the House have.

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