Why Liberals Love Islam

It’s always seemed bizarre to me that liberals love to champion Islam. Doesn’t Islam represent everything liberals love to hate? Islam assigns women subservient social roles. It condemns homosexuality and other “sexually deviant” practices. At least in recent years, it has given rise to numerous violent extremist movements, and, even more alarming, a non-trivial percentage of Muslims seem to be supportive of them. Nothing remotely comparable has been seen from Christians or Jews in the mode…

  1. Majestyk

    Liberals don’t love Islam – they fear it.  In Islam they see a muscular religio-political system which has the capacity to foist itself without self consciousness upon weaker foes.

    It seems to me that despite all of their disgust for members of the opposite political persuasion, leftists are fundamentally sort of a gang of sissies; occasionally you run into militant ones like Van Jones or the Occupy Nutters, but these are generally pacifist weenies who want to accomplish their odious goals through the grinding, inexorable wheels of statism.

    In Islam, they are nakedly unafraid to express their political will via violence;  Liberals fundamentally fear this, and give it a wide berth.

  2. Franco

    Your post is extremely informative and interesting. However, I think the reasons for this phenomenon are mundane. Leftists hate and fear their immediate threat, American conservatives, devout Christians and Republicans. In the enemy of my enemy is my friend thinking, Republicans *hate* Muslims, Islamists hate Jews (many lefties secretly hate Jews too especially right wing Israeli types) and Christians so there is an alliance right there.

    Radical Muslims are victims and right-wing Americans who made them that way. Sure they don’t like the radical Muslims but it’s not their fault (more condescending racism) it was colonials and Bush who made them hate us.

    Furthermore all muslims aren’t bad. The ones I know (narcissistic solipsism) are nice and they are discriminated against and misunderstood by ignorant right-wing bigots.

    So you see, it is at once complicated and simple. The simple-minded leftist thinks the issue is complicated and they think others are being simplistic and ignorant. 

    Felling superior and nuanced is very enjoyable for them.

  3. drlorentz
    Majestyk: Liberals don’t love Islam – they fear it.  In Islam they see a muscular religio-political system which has the capacity to foist itself without self consciousness upon weaker foes.

    You’re on to something. Liberals also are attracted to totalitarianism, and Islam has some of that flavor too.

    As for fideism, I’ve noticed a pretty strong streak among Christians right here on Ricochet – not exactly a bastion of liberalism. Don’t many Christians extoll the virtues of faith over reason? I don’t think of that as an especially liberal view of religion. On the contrary, the ideal liberal’s religion is Unitarianism, which brings us back to Majestyk’s insight.

  4. Schrodinger
    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
    Arabian Proverb

     

    Liberals love Islam because they despise Christianity (and Judaism).  Also, I agree that liberals like Islam because it fits into their worldview of a religious people as unsophisticated.

    Liberals also see in Islam a similar thought pattern to liberalism – belief based on “talking points” not on evidence. Also, liberalism and Islam are hyper judgmental. If you disagree with them, you are not just wrong, you are evil.

    However, if the Judeo-Christian religions disappeared, liberals and Islam would become sworn enemies.

  5. Barkha Herman

    I think there is misrepresentation in your original statement.  Liberals do not love Islam  Statists do.  Both Statism and Islam are all about control.   Therefore, it is of no surprise to me that the two camps agree in tactics even though they may differ in principle.

    They are cut from the same cloth, despite difference in doctrine.

  6. nonobadpony

    Islam has a natural ally in Socialism.  Both want their belief to dominate in the world and to achieve that goal they both need to dismantle Western Civilization.  They are allies with a common enemy.

    Here in the USA the goal is a bit simpler.  The Democrat Party controls thought and speech by means of political correctness.  It is racist, bigoted, homophobic or xenophobic for anyone to discuss the shortcomings of any member of the Democrat coalition, even if one part of the coalition wants to destroy the another part.  The average progressive is well versed in the dogma of the left and is instructed by that dogma that  Islam is the religion of peace and Israel is an apartheid county; any other thought (or speech) would be blasphemy.  

  7. Barkha Herman
    Schrodinger’s Cat 

    Liberals love Islam because they despise Christianity (and Judaism). 

    Back in the day when Christianity was also all about control, it too loved Islam; at least it did under British India during the Raj.

  8. EThompson
    Schrodinger’s Cat

    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
    Arabian Proverb

     

    I couldn’t agree more; this would also explain the liberal infatuation with Mao and Castro.

  9. Schrodinger
    Barkha Herman: I think there is misrepresentation in your original statement.  Liberals do not love Islam  Statists do.  Both Statism and Islam are all about control.   Therefore, it is of no surprise to me that the two camps agree in tactics even though they may differ in principle.

    They are cut from the same cloth, despite difference in doctrine. · 1 minute ago

    Well put!

  10. Kofola

    I think you’re all over-thinking this one.

    The left hold this view because they see the Muslim world as victims of Western Imperialism. If things are crazy in the middle east, it’s because the west made it that way.

  11. Barkha Herman
    Schrodinger’s Cat

    Barkha Herman: I think there is misrepresentation in your original statement.  Liberals do not love Islam  Statists do.  Both Statism and Islam are all about control.   Therefore, it is of no surprise to me that the two camps agree in tactics even though they may differ in principle.

    They are cut from the same cloth, despite difference in doctrine. · 1 minute ago

    Well put! · 3 minutes ago

    This is why I refuse to call them liberals.  The confusion arises when we subconsciously start thinking liberty has anything to do with their stances.

    IMHO, it is important to re-claim this word.

  12. Misthiocracy

    I think it’s simpler than all that.

    I think it’s because Islam is, as far as I’m aware, the only major religion that commands its adherents to provide financial support to “the poor”, under penalty of the religion’s leaders.

    Other religions talk a lot about the virtue of helping the poor, but Islam is the only religion (AFAIK) where it’s a commandment to be enforced here on Earth

    This Crashcourse video on Islam also (perhaps unintentionally) gives a few clues about why the Left champions Islam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpcbfxtdoI8

  13. drlorentz
    Barkha Herman

    This is why I refuse to call them liberals.  The confusion arises when we subconsciously start thinking liberty has anything to do with their stances.

    IMHO, it is important to re-claim this word.

    It would be nice to reclaim it, but that ship has sailed. The same goes for progressive. No one is more retrograde than a contemporary Leftist, except possibly Islamic fundamentalists. Maybe that explains the affinity.

  14. Richard Young

    Loved your post.  It was extremely insightful into the Muslim paradigm.  Like many others however, I think the real affinity the left has for Islam is Islam’s defiance of the West and all that represents.  Perhaps the thinking for some goes deeper than that and touches on the points you made but I suspect for most it is a knee jerk sympathy for the hatred Islamists show toward modernity.

  15. Donald Todd

    Schrodinger’s Cat: #4  I agree that liberals like Islam because it fits into their worldview of a religious people as unsophisticated. 

    Wonderful insight.  

    I also believe that Kofola‘s comment in #10, about Muslims being the victims (a perfect liberal word) of Western imperialism is correct.

    I suspect that the liberals will hold on to their positions until they are unpleasantly surprised to find out that they, their wives, their sons and their daughters are at that point subject to sharia.

    Should that happen, they will long for the days when Christians and Jews had voting rights, and did not force them into baptism or circumcision.  

    How does it go?  A conservative is a liberal who was mugged?  The liberals who champion Islam haven’t been subject to the benefits of sharia.  Yet.  And they are too dumb to see what is happening in the Islamic world, not merely among competing sects within Islam, but also to other religious people (Copts, Catholics, Protestants, et al) in countries ruled by Muslims enforcing sharia on everyone.

  16. TeeJaw

    9/13 Conservatives understand why liberals love Muslims.  It’s not complicated.  Those who favor the explanation of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” are right.

    A “9/13 conservative” is someone who may not have been particularly political on 9/11 and didn’t realize they were conservative just because 9/11 occurred. It wasn’t the falling of the twin towers that awakened their natural conservative political instincts.

    It was the bizarre blaming of America for 9/11 by liberals immediately afterward that got them.  The sickening apologies and excuses that liberals came up with to justify 9/11 was a great awakening to the 9/13 conservatives; they realized for the first time that liberals really do hold reprehensible beliefs about their own country.  They realized, reluctantly but surely, that liberals have nothing they truly believe in.  They just hate America.  

  17. Blue State Curmudgeon
    Kofola: I think you’re all over-thinking this one.

    The left hold this view because they see the Muslim world as victims of Western Imperialism. If things are crazy in the middle east, it’s because the west made it that way. · 20 minutes ago

    You hit the nail on the head.  The left is willing to ignore anything to advance the idea that Western Civilization is the root of all evil.  I once heard a lefty commentator admiring the piety of the Aztecs since they were willing to perform human sacrifice for their beliefs. 

  18. The New Clear Option
    Majestyk: Liberals don’t love Islam – they fear it.  

    Majestyk took the words right out of my mouth.

    Fear primarily, along with the bits already bandied about regarding Islam fulfilling a stereotype of what religion is from the modern, progressive mindset (i.e. fideistic, credulous, law-based/works oriented), a good dash of “the enemy of my enemy…,” and you’ve got it pretty well covered.

    But mostly, it’s fear, plain and simple. It’s a reasonable fear, actually. Imagine that. “Liberals” can still reason.

  19. Pencilvania

    Hey, let’s call them ‘Progressive Fundamentalists.’

    Rachel Lu: thank you for explaining your experiences, that is very enlightening!  I tend to think liberals cozy up to Islam out of boredom; Judeo-Christian is so 5 minutes ago, you know?

  20. Colin B Lane

    Excellent comments all, to which I can add only a reference — to the inimitable Dennis Prager and his book Still the Best Hope (people on Ricochet are going to start thinking I get royalties from this guy). An excellent book for understanding the interplay between, as Prager calls them, Leftism, Islamism, and American values.

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