What Explains the Sudden, Nearly Universal Female Aversion to Child-Bearing? Ladies?

Paules had this post about Russia’s demographic death spiral and I recently read an article stating that college-educated American women have a fertility rate of only 1.6, which is little better than China’s 1.54 with its one-child policy. Note comments 12 and 13 in Paules thread, and that a birth rate of 2.11 per woman is necessary to avoid a societal contraction and collapse.

So the question is, since in biologi…

  1. D.C. McAllister
    C

    1. It hurts.

    2. It’s exhausting.

    3. It’s expensive.

    4. It’s emotionally depleting.

    5. Did I mention it hurts?

  2. dash

    One reason may very well be the state of the modern male.

    Which then segues into a general fear of lifetime commitment. I can imagine a woman thinking to herself, “I suppose I could handle raising one child alone (which I will most  assuredly be soon), but three?”

  3. TeamAmerica

    @Denise- I gather it hurts, but still, with epidurals and other painkillers, it is less painful than it was in the past, isn’t it?

    @Dash- Perhaps, but the male failure-to-launch issue might require another thread.

  4. EJHill

    It’s selfishness. They’ve been brainwashed into thinking children are a patriarchal plot to deny them fulfillment.

  5. TeamAmerica

    @EJHill- I think that is at least part of the reason. Also, there is the ‘Me Generation’ value system which applies to both men and women, reinforced by feminism.

  6. Jojo
    Denise McAllister: 1. It hurts.

     

    This made me laugh out loud because it’s EXACTLY what I was going to say. TeamAmerica, they haven’t actually achieved pain-free childbirth.  If you think about what has to take place you can understand.

    Seriously of course it’s not the pain but the responsibility and financial sacrifice and risk that gives women pause.  Same thing that gives men pause, I guess, except generally more so.

  7. Schrodinger

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    We have a societal death wish.

  8. TeamAmerica

    SC points out the consequences, which are vapid media scarcely ever cover.

  9. EThompson
    EJHill: It’s selfishness. They’ve been brainwashed into thinking children are a patriarchal plot to deny them fulfillment.

    Sorry, this is far too simplistic.

    One word– inflation.

    See: cost of real estate, pre-school, private k-12 education and the big kahuna- undergraduate and advanced degrees. Unless you’re willing to homeschool- and there are several members of my family who have done so successfully- I don’t see how a husband and wife living on a middle to upper middle class income could even contemplate having more than 1.5 kids!

  10. D.C. McAllister
    C

    teamAmerica—you got me giggling with your response about epidurals. Such a guy response, and cute. It’s not just delivery. We do carry that baby for nine months. Nausea, back cramps, headaches, swelling, hemorrhoids in places you can’t imagine hemorrhoids being, painful breasts…shall I go on. And then there’s the hormones and what happens to your body afterward….sigh. Delivery is the least of it. Granted, some pregnancies are better than others. I’ve known women who can carry and pop out those babies without blinking, but you asked my opinion, and when it comes to birthing children, there is a huge physical factor. Not to mention as we get older, it gets harder (typically). Just sayin

  11. Schrodinger
    TeamAmerica:

    So the question is, since in biological terms males and females exist to create the next generation, why are so many women suddenly, nearly universally averse to bearing two or more kids?

    Hey man, that’s sooooo Fifties. Now that we have our groove on, let another culture bear the burden of preservation of the species. Party Hearty!

  12. Nobody

    At least one reason: reproduction as a positive good has fallen out of favor. Barrenness has become a value.

    This is one of the reasons why those of us who oppose same-sex “marriage” have experienced such frustration in pleading our case.

    For a variety of reasons, perpetuating the life stream no longer seems like an urgent and obvious good, which is the way it seemed to all or almost all past generations.

    Making and raising children is expensive and inconvenient in all kinds of ways. Therefore, when it no longer appears to be an especially compelling good (it used to be regarded by most people as the single most compelling earthly good), we’re going to have less of it.

  13. TeamAmerica

    @ Denise- Cute, huh.Hmmm

    @SC et al:

    Gunnar Myrdal was a Swedish economist/sociologist perhaps most famous for his book on American race relations-’An American Dilemma.’

    As Prof. Rahe noted previously, he also predicted that welfare states contain the seeds of their own destruction-  http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Where-Do-We-Go-from-Here

    In other  words, one major reason people had large families in the past was so that the parents would have enough kids to take care of them when they were elderly. Welfare states create the illusion that children aren’t needed for that role, as the state will provide for the elderly. Illusion, because the state has no money and needs an adequately large supply of young workers to pay the taxes for Social Security and Medicare.

    So somehow it must be communicated to both men and especially to women that low ,(i.e.< than 2.11) birth rates will lead to societal collapse, as is happening in Japan, Russia, and many other countries.

  14. katievs
    TeamAmerica: So the question is, since in biological terms males and females exist to create the next generation, why are so many women suddenly, nearly universally averse to bearing two or more kids? 

    Can I point out that human life isn’t reducible to biology?  Human beings are first and foremost persons, who live by and for such things as love, meaning, happiness.

  15. TeamAmerica

    @SC, Purplestrife, et al

    Paul Erlich’s 1968 best-selling book, ‘The Population Bomb,’ created the enduring myth that the Earth’s population is too large and growing exponentially. Many people, especially  leftys and environmentalists, still parrot that nonsense.

  16. TeamAmerica

    @Katievs- I agree, I was just trying to be succinct about the topic at issue, and not offend our agnostic fellow Richocetians.

  17. Lord Humungus

    This is just opinion, mind you, I have no actual statistics or anything, but….Barry White passed away in 1999. So, now you know.

  18. katievs
    TeamAmerica: @Katievs- I agree, I was just trying to be succinct about the topic at issue, and not offend our agnostic fellow Richocetians. ·

    You mean you meant to challenge materialistic determinism?  

  19. HeartofAmerica
    Denise McAllister: teamAmerica—you got me giggling with your response about epidurals. Such a guy response, and cute. It’s not just delivery. We do carry that baby for nine months. Nausea, back cramps, headaches, swelling, hemorrhoids in places you can’t imagine hemorrhoids being, painful breasts…shall I go on. And then there’s the hormones and what happens to your body afterward….sigh. Delivery is the least of it. Granted, some pregnancies are better than others. I’ve known women who can carry and pop out those babies without blinking, but you asked my opinion, and when it comes to birthing children, there is a huge physical factor. Not to mention as we get older, it gets harder (typically). Just sayin · 31 minutes ago

    What she said.

  20. HeartofAmerica

    So it’s Sunday night and you’re bored and just trying to pick a fight, right?

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