Tsarnaevs Were State-Funded Terrorists!

I keep waiting for any single aspect of this story about the Boston bombers not to confirm things I already believe. Here’s the latest example:

Marathon bombings mastermind Tamerlan Tsarnaev was living on taxpayer-funded state welfare benefits even as he was delving deep into the world of radical anti-American Islamism, the Herald has learned.

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  1. BrentB67

    I am not sure it qualifies as state funded terrorism, but it does beg the question why they were on public assistance when he was obviously able bodied enough to work including technical skills, rudimentary engineering, handling dangerous chemicals, carrying heavy loads, etc.

    I wonder how the world would be different today if MA eliminated all these assistance programs and the terrorist had to get a job to support his family. Maybe that would’ve cut into the time he spent making bombs and getting ready to murder people. Or maybe he would’ve stayed home and not brought terror in the name of Islam here.

    All those that say it is inevitable we must have a welfare state and it just needs better managers, the quote link is second from the left.

  2. Fricosis Guy

    Yeah, @EJ, but let’s not relitigate Iraq. Everyone knows we didn’t find a single pressure cooker.

  3. Foxman

    I always thought Massachusetts was a communist state, not an Islamic one. 

  4. The Mugwump

    Has anybody here ever known a welfare recipient who was grateful for the support provided him or her by the state?  Isn’t alienation from society at large an essential feature of the welfare system?  So, where’s the surprise?  I would be a lot more surprised if the bomber had built a business from the bottom up and held a mortgage.  The bottom line here is that a person is not really a citizen unless he has a vested interest in his own life.  That’s something the state simply can’t provide.    

  5. Fricosis Guy

    @~Paules: To be fair, I have. But only after they had had a spiritual transformation that involved repentance for their former ingratitude for that public assistance.

    To hop on my favorite hobby horse, many of the “mercy” arms of our churches have become mere conduits for state funds. They therefore neglect the good news their “clients” need to hear.

    ~Paules: Has anybody here ever known a welfare recipient who was grateful for the support provided him or her by the state?  Isn’t alienation from society at large an essential feature of the welfare system?  So, where’s the surprise?  I would be a lot more surprised if the bomber had built a business from the bottom up and held a mortgage.  The bottom line here is that a person is not really a citizen unless he has a vested interest in his own life.  That’s something the state simply can’t provide.     · 5 minutes ago

  6. The Mugwump
    Fricosis Guy: @~Paules: To be fair, I have. But only after they had had a spiritual transformation that involved repentance for their former ingratitude for that public assistance.

    Okay, you just doubled down and made my case for me.  I suppose that real charities would withhold support for the able-bodied.  Sometimes charity involves a well-deserved kick in the pants.  Compassion as espoused by the left is more often than not merely a misplaced appeal to emotion.  The reliance on emotion over logic is another sign of a decadent society.      

  7. tabula rasa

    Is there a message here, like perhaps?:  ”Giving money to people who are (1) ungrateful and (2) hate you neither causes them to love you nor respect you, or even to stop hating you.”

  8. Tom Meyer

    My tax dollars at work, apparently.

  9. DrewInWisconsin
    Lavaux:

    Multiculturalism is a Trojan Horse ideology. It dissolves the traditional bonds of common sentiment binding polities together to replace them with a new bond – tolerance – containing the recipe for its own destruction – intolerance.

    Two decades ago we were telling people what the focus on multiculti and diversity (in contrast to assimilation) would bring us. And it has. Several times over. Those who warn of the slippery slope are often proven right.

  10. Chris Anderson

    Count me among the unsurprised to find out that he and his wife were receiving welfare benefits.

    What I’m still wondering is how TT was able to afford a Mercedes.

  11. C. U. Douglas

    Interesting that all this state aid did not generate a whit of sympathy for those who are funding said aid …

  12. Crow
    Chris Anderson: What I’m still wondering is how TT was able to afford a Mercedes. · 1 hour ago

    Oh, its only a Mercedes…..It’s not like it was a custom Bentley.

    Sequestration, you know, its hurting all of us…..

  13. EJHill

    My favorite part of this story is the WMD charge. Saddam Hussein gets a pass while Boston DA criminalizes the housewares department at Sears.

    That and the fact that the reporters at The Chicago Tribune bought lunch for the newsroom at The Boston Globe.

  14. Larry3435
    BrentB67: 

    All those that say it is inevitable we must have a welfare state and it just needs better managers, the quote link is second from the left. · 5 hours ago

    That’s always the last line of the lefties’ explanation:  Stalin was the wrong guy to put in charge.

  15. Fricosis Guy

    Yes, people need to reap what they sow. Such folks thought they were entitled to what they got — heck, they thought they should be getting more — because they were breathing.  Au contraire, they were alcoholics or criminals who were lucky they weren’t in asylums or jail.

    But that’s not the end of the story. Perhaps that “kick in the pants” will get rouse them, but where will they go then? If all that is on offer from our houses of worship is the “client” mentality of the state, then they’re back into the spiral of dependency and resentment.

    ~Paules

    Fricosis Guy: @~Paules: To be fair, I have. But only after they had had a spiritual transformation that involved repentance for their former ingratitude for that public assistance.

    Okay, you just doubled down and made my case for me.  I suppose that real charities would withhold support for the able-bodied.  Sometimes charity involves a well-deserved kick in the pants.  Compassion as espoused by the left is more often than not merely a misplaced appeal to emotion.  The reliance on emotion over logic is another sign of a decadent society. 

  16. Crow

    Nothing can surprise me from the People’s Republic of Cambridge.

  17. Stu In Tokyo
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: ……..

    Was my headline misleading? The state that funded them was Massachusetts. · · 1 hour ago

    The only question to ask is “Mollie, why do you hate women so much?”

  18. Jordan Wiegand

    Thing about money is it’s fungible, even aid such as food stamps frees up cash for other purposes, like lotto tickets and beer, or in this case explosives.  So any time the state gives money to someone who turns out to be a criminal, that money can be said to have enabled the crime.

  19. Lavaux

    Why is America importing murderous savages who hate her and want to destroy her? Must compassionate nations commit suicide to prove their compassion?

    As I’ve observed and analyzed multiculturalism and diversity policies in action, I’ve gone from open-border libertarianism to closed-border conservatism.

    Multiculturalism is a Trojan Horse ideology. It dissolves the traditional bonds of common sentiment binding polities together to replace them with a new bond – tolerance – containing the recipe for its own destruction – intolerance.

    Tolerance cannot tolerate intolerance, and a truly diverse polity is by definition one that generates numerous intolerant ideas, beliefs, and sentiments. To survive intolerance, a diverse, multicultural polity must impose a uniform dogma based on superficial traits and relativism and then ruthlessly enforce it against all dissenters. What emerges is a superficially diverse polity marching in lockstep to an anodyne uniform dogma that utterly fails to inspire the patriotism necessary to resist national decline and submission to rivals who believe in themselves.

    This will be America’s fate unless we subject our elites to a 70s-style cultural revolution (not Mao-style) that strips them of all power and influence and exiles them to political and cultural insignificance.

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