So Let it Be Written

I recently passed by a vehicle, the bumper of which was adorned with a sticker that proclaimed “violence is never the answer.” The bolded word was in red, presumably to signify the blood of all those innocent victims who have suffered at the hands of people who refuse to heed the message. This pacifist, whose freedom of speech is guaranteed by threat of force, was driving around Seattle, apparently taking for granted the protections of an armed police and an even more thoroughl…

  1. Simon Templar

    Progressives are pro-violence (for example union thugs) when it supports their agenda.

  2. Xcheesehead

    The “War Is Never the Answer” people never seem to recognize that inconsistency. What denomination is your church?

    R. Craigen: I attend a church that actively preaches passive nonresistance.

    But they have a contract with an alarm company.  If someone breaks in, within minutes armed guards and/or police will be on site to accost the perps.

    Of course, the church folk will not be engaging in violence, personally.

    It’s remarkable the degree to which people who consider themselves pacifistic altruists will justify the contracting of violence to others.

    Not only that, but they speak openly of withholding “that portion” of their taxes that go to support the military.  Yet do not balk at living in a country whose peace is largely guaranteed by that military.

    Worse, nearly 100 years ago their ancestors lived in Russia and also were nonresistors.  When bandits discovered they were sitting ducks and Russia was in too much upheaval to uphold the rule of law, they were overrun by violent men who robbed, stole, raped and killed with reckless abandon.

    If “passivists” manage to neuter our nation, where then will they run when violence comes? · 2 hours ago

  3. Merina Smith

    You have to expect Prius owners to be self-righteous.  Sounds like those bumper stickers belong in Jonah Goldberg’s Tyranny of Cliches. 

  4. Zafar

    Hey R Craigen, are you going to a Mennonite Church?

    R. Craigen: I attend a church that actively preaches passive nonresistance.

    Worse, nearly 100 years ago their ancestors lived in Russia and also were nonresistors.  When bandits discovered they were sitting ducks and Russia was in too much upheaval to uphold the rule of law, they were overrun by violent men who robbed, stole, raped and killed with reckless abandon.

    So these peaceful folk recklessly abandoned their possessions and moved to a country where national peace and the rule of law was vouchsafed by force of arms. 

    If “passivists” manage to neuter our nation, where then will they run when violence comes? · 5 hours ago

  5. dash

    I have a bone to pick on the subject of those small project task forces that don’t worry you too much, but no time to expand. Perhaps later. Good points otherwise, nicely stated.

  6. Severely Ltd.

    I’ll have a bumper sticker some day that says “5 is not the answer”.

    “We do not speak a common language, and Barack Obama has just decreed that the national language is liberalism.”

    It will end in a Tower of Babble because it doesn’t work.

  7. Misthiocracy
    Ryan M:

    Violence may not be a good answer to the question “Can you recommend a wine that will complement this roasted duck?”  But when violence is a part of the question – “how would you like to give me all of your money at the risk of being stabbed with this here knife?” – violence is often a legitimate part of the answer, if not the answer in its entirety.

    That’s going straight into the “favourite quotes” file that I keep on my Google Drive.

  8. Misthiocracy
    Merina Smith: You have to expect Prius owners to be self-righteous.

    My brother-in-law had a Prius, and he was not self-righteous. He simply likes shiny toys. It was the vehicular equivalent of buying an iPhone.

  9. Ryan M
    dash: I have a bone to pick on the subject of those small project task forces that don’t worry you too much, but no time to expand. Perhaps later. Good points otherwise, nicely stated. · 4 minutes ago

    Edited 2 minutes ago

    Dash, if it makes you feel better, I was being kind of sarcastic.  They are a colossal waste of time/energy/money.  And they never get it right.  They are small examples of how stupid it is to think that you can solve problems that way (especially when the problem was just a mistake that someone made) or that you can eliminate virtually every error simply by making more rules (it kind of treats humans like robots that just need better programming, doesn’t it?).  Those small task-forces are actually huge examples of government ineptitude, yet we attempt to implement them on a national scale.  Kind of like Biden’s task force on gun control….

  10. Chris
    Ryan M: I recently passed by a vehicle, the bumper of which was adorned with a sticker that proclaimed “violence isnever the answer.”  …  

    · 3 hours ago

    One of the biggest chuckles I got from my boys recently was when I informed them that quote… which one threw out there as only a teen could…. was bunk.  

    Most of the time it shouldn’t be a top five answer, but it’s an answer.  And, unfortunately, sometimes it’s number one.

  11. Mr. Bildo
    Misthiocracy

    Merina Smith: You have to expect Prius owners to be self-righteous.

    My brother-in-law had a Prius, and he was not self-righteous. He simply likes shiny toys. It was the vehicular equivalent of buying an iPhone.

    Ha! My (ex) brother-in-law did the exact same thing. In fact, I would have used the iPhone analogy for him as well. Funny.

  12. Keith

    Great post.

  13. Richard Fulmer

    The ”Violence is never the answer” and the “Coexist” memes share the same fatal flaw:  Peace treaties cannot be unilateral.  I’m willing to renounce initiating violence but I will not renounce responding with violence if I’m physically attacked.  I can coexist with others only if others are willing to coexist with me.  It all comes down to: I will if you will.

  14. Britanicus
    Ryan M:  In other words, violence may not be a good answer to the question “Can you recommend a wine that will compliment this roasted duck?”

    That passage caused me to giggle out loud. I pictured a scene in a fancy restaurant where upon hearing the question, the waiter responded as such: “Well, my good man, I recommend THIS!” While violently slapping the patron.

    Solid post.

  15. Fred Cole
    Ryan M: I recently passed by a vehicle, the bumper of which was adorned with a sticker that proclaimed “violence isnever the answer.” The bolded word was in red, presumably to signify the blood of all those innocent victims who have suffered at the hands of people who refuse to heed the message. 

    They might be Amish!

  16. Ryan M
    Mr. Bildo

    Misthiocracy

    Merina Smith: You have to expect Prius owners to be self-righteous.

    My brother-in-law had a Prius, and he was not self-righteous. He simply likes shiny toys. It was the vehicular equivalent of buying an iPhone.

    Ha! My (ex) brother-in-law did the exact same thing. In fact, I would have used the iPhone analogy for him as well. Funny. · 29 minutes ago

    I will admit that the first time I saw a civic hybrid, I wanted one.  In fact, if you’re going purely for gas mileage, a hybrid isn’t bad (once they started making reliable ones).  In Seattle, though, Prius is symbolic.

  17. danys

    I bet the driver has high self-esteem, too.

  18. DocJay

    I like to pull my big truck along side them and drift a touch in to their lane. When they scream I flash them a peace sign.

  19. John Murdoch

    I venture to guess that the owner of a Prius with “what would Jesus bomb?” and “Violence is NEVER the answer” bumper stickers is part of a pacifist Christian community.

    Two thoughts:

    First, the parable of the Good Samaritan. Very often a key point of that parable is left unsaid: the victim had been waylaid, beaten, and left for dead. Ergo–this was not a safe place to stop and ask, “are you okay?” There was a very real possibility that the (remember the plural) bad men were still around–the Good Samaritan had to be prepared to face those consequences. He had to be prepared to defend himself, and the victim, if the bad guys came back.

    Second, as a general rule of philosophy, if your faith/philosophy/life path requires that there always be sinners around to do the necessary sinning for you, your philosophy is bankrupt.

    Within the Christian church that’s true for pacifists–but it’s equally true for strict Sabbatarians. It’s honorable to carefully avoid work or commerce on Sunday–but if you’re using electricity, you’re depending upon sinners to run the generating plant, etc.

  20. James Of England
    Ryan M: “what would Jesus bomb?”

    As any fule kno, the answer to the question “who would God smite” is always “no one, ever”. Christ came to bring peace, not with a sword. He demanded that his followers didn’t carry weapons. The beast will make nice, not war, with the saints. We are called upon to avoid expelling the immoral brother. The parable in which there is one (1) neighbor and numerous other characters is intended to show that everyone is your neighbor. Christ’s acceptance of taxpayers, thieves, and prostitutes who repented of their work demonstrates a similar acceptance of those who did not. Civil disobedience of a bad ruler (such as, eg., Nero) is a Christian virtue. The Old Testament is not meant to be read by Christians, and nor is the last book of the New.

    Honestly, it’s like some people never went to college. Ever heard of Chomsky?

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