Reflection Before Posting

It’s a credit to Ricochet that Fred’s question on the source of God’s authority resulted in some interesting comments. Granted, they were mainly the tangential ones, but even some of the comments sticking to the question made some beautiful points. 

Overall, though, there was a lot more heat than light and the reason is that God’s authority is an axiom and not subject to proof. There aren’t any pr…

  1. William Laing
    Personally I enjoyed Fred’s question. It was that question that made me think at all about the nature of divine authority.  Mightn’t be axiomatic though. It could be held to follow from perfect wisdom and goodness. In CS Lewis’s Voyage to Venus, the character Dr Ransom, (confronted by Professor Weston with the idea that God’s authority is based on his spiritual nature and it’s purity), counters. “We worship him because he is wise and good, not because he is a pure spirit.” In some essay or other CSL performs the thought experiment “If per impossibile God’s had no power, His perfect goodness by itself would entitle Him to exactly the same obedience we owe Him now.”  [Quotes from memory, and probably not quite exact.] And Severely: be nice to Fred. 
  2. Severely Ltd.
    William Laing: Personally I enjoyed Fred’s question. It was that question that made me think at all about the nature of divine authority.  Mightn’t be axiomatic though. It could be held to follow from perfect wisdom and goodness.

    Except that whatever the creator says is good and wise, is good and wise. We don’t love God because he is those things, we love those things because they are an expression of God. The creator is the piper, he calls the tune.

    William Laing: And Severely: be nice to Fred.

    I made the point in the comments to Fred’s post that I usually enjoy his stuff. I thought this one was too silly, and particularly too silly to be exposed to the public on the Main. We got standards ain’t we?

  3. DrewInWisconsin

    One of the most unheralded skills in the communication age is the edit. Yours was great!

  4. Severely Ltd.
    DrewInWisconsin: One of the most unheralded skills in the communication age is the edit. Yours was great! · 15 minutes ago

    Drew, If you’re referring to the Headline edit and removal of the word ‘inane’ further down, Mollie gets credit for that wisdom. That’s why she gets the big bucks.

  5. Lord Humungus

    I actually thought that the question was the wrong question to ask. We ought to be content knowing that the majority (I’m generalizing here) of humans perceive that a diety has omnipotent authority and that they (the majority) choose to defer to that authority. Somehow, I think that a world wherein we all accept that God is dead would be….challenging…and no fun (think zombie apocalypse). Embrace your inner cynic.

    So what we ought to be asking is: how do we encourage current believers and develop new believers?

  6. DrewInWisconsin
    Severely Ltd.

    DrewInWisconsin: One of the most unheralded skills in the communication age is the edit. Yours was great! · 15 minutes ago

    Drew, If you’re referring to the Headline edit and removal of the word ‘inane’ further down, Mollie gets credit for that wisdom. That’s why she gets the big bucks.

    Compliment withdrawn and redirected to Mollie, then! : )

    Still, my statement stands. I have a deep admiration for people who know how to choose words with precision.

    So it’s ironic that I edited this a little.

  7. Ryan M

    Well, put.  Although, unlike William, I did not much care for Fred’s initial post.  I was not offended, but I felt that it was an enormous leap in the wrong direction.  I cannot say whether it was posited in good or bad faith, only that it seemed entirely unnecessary – that any good came out of it is, as you said, a testament to the good folks here at Ricochet, Fred included.

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