Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton Clash on Benghazi

Per Mollie’s earlier post, here was the other exchange that grabbed the most headlines from today’s appearance by Secretary of State Clinton before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where she was testifying on the Benghazi debacle. Kentucky Senator Rand Paul lays into the secretary, including letting her know that she would’ve been out of a job had he occupied the Oval Office:

  1. Britanicus

    If the father was like the son, I would have been a Paul supporter a long time ago.

    2016.

  2. D.C. McAllister
    C

    I was much more impressed with how Rand handled the questioning today than how Rubio did. Amid all the salivating and fawning, Rand was refreshing. Unlike all the others, Rand appeared, at least to me, like he was just doing his duty to get out some measure of praise so he could get to what was important. I appreciated that.

    Also, are hearings really the time to heap praise on a witness? Do it in the back rooms or at a celebratory cocktail party, but not during a hearing. Ridiculous.

  3. HVTs

    Don’t you wish we could somehow ban senior officials from (quote) taking responsibility (unquote) unless they actually do something that demonstrates accountability too?  Preferably, it would be personal accountability (resign for God’s sake!).  But firing someone would do.

    To be fair, Secretary Clinton is believable concerning Federal rules that make it damn near impossible to hold career bureaucrats accountable.  But Obama has been adept at abusing rules and ignoring laws when it suited him (immigration, recess appointments). If he wanted to hold a bureaucrat accountable, he would have found a way to do so.  Just ask Shirley Sherrod.

  4. Shane McGuire

    Hillary takes responsibility as well as her husband does. It really is impressive.

    Regarding Rand Paul—bravo. I like him. I’d love to see him run for president and be part of the field in 2016. I wonder, though, whether he’s too short to be president? I think his height will hurt him more than his surname.

  5. Gus Marvinson

    While I’ve never been what you would call a fan of Ron Paul, he has a fighting spirit that has passed on to Rand. This is good. Rubio, for a reason that escapes my grasp, doesn’t impress me as much as he does others. Maybe it’s because he wants to get along a little too much. Sure he said Obama lacked guts, but that’s like saying tofu lacks flavor.

  6. HVTs
    Denise McAllister:

    Also, are hearings really the time to heap praise on a witness? Do it in the back rooms or at a celebratory cocktail party, but not during a hearing. Ridiculous.

    Just more evidence that Capitol Hill is a club, with members-only rules of decorum.  The members tend to care a great deal about what other club members think.  What you and I might think?  Not so much.

  7. Benjamin Glaser

    I am less and less impressed with Marco Rubio the more I see him in action. 

  8. Paul A. Rahe
    C

    Rand Paul seems to be distancing himself from his father’s isolationism. The father was a clown and a demagogue (remember the letters that went out under his name and what was said in them about African-Americans) — albeit an intelligent clown and a cunning demagogue. The son may possess his father’s intelligence and be free from his father’s embarrassing obsessions. That would be a real blessing. He asked the right questions and took the right stands. Courage is always refreshing.

  9. Mama Toad

    She is such a piece of work. “The review board was very clear that the responsibility only extended to the Assistant Secretary level. So I am being really special by admitting responsibility, even though I am not really responsible.” Eww.

    Way to go, Senator Paul. The more I hear from him, the more impressed I am. 

  10. Percival
    Mama Toad: She is such a piece of work. “The review board was very clear that the responsibility only extended to the Assistant Secretary level. So I am being really special by admitting responsibility, even though I am not really responsible.” Eww.

    Way to go, Senator Paul. The more I hear from him, the more impressed I am.  · 4 minutes ago

    “Hey, I’m taking responsibility here!  Now stop saying it’s all my fault!”

  11. Pseudodionysius

    The reason I am here Senator is because I’m a freakishly talented seller of cattle futures, children’s book author, law firm billing record maven, and I’ve stuck a shiv in far more people than you’ll ever know.

    I take responsibility in the same sense that Bill Clinton took responsibility for the beg your pardon of Marc Rich, the tobacco plantation fondling of Monica Lewinsky and firing a $2 million dollar missile at a $10 empty tent and hitting a camel in the butt. In fact, you could say that’s the Phelps-Clinton doctrine as in Leon Phelps, the Ladies Man.

  12. bopberrigan

    When you view the Hillary/Rand Paul video clip you’re seeing the two 2016 Presidential candidates.  I am very impressed with Senator Paul, and not so with Hillary.   I think he’s the real thing.  Senator Rubio is far less impressive and doesn’t improve with time.

  13. John Walker

    Mark my words: Rand Paul is the next Reagan we’ve been waiting for.  He is utterly grounded in his convictions, articulate in expressing them, and entirely unconcerned at how his words perturb the “get along” surrender consensus in Washington.

    He has probably read half of the thousand foundational books of liberty that his father has.  But he’s young—he’s working on it.

    And he is patient.  He may not go for the prize in 2016, or 2020.  Recall that Reagan first reached for the brass ring in 1968.

    But his instincts are right, and he’s one of the few beacons we can look to on an otherwise gloomy horizon.

  14. Chris Campion

    I guess Clinton’s sense of shame left the building long ago.  Also, somebody please slap a dictionary into that woman’s hands.  I know it’s been a long time since college and law school (tee hee!), but really, you should know, as a cabinet-level appointee, what the word “responsibility” means.

    It means, in this case, your [CoC-deleted] resignation.

  15. Butters

    maybe someone else can articulate what it is, but I love Rand Paul’s speaking style and mannerisms

  16. Freesmith

    Hillary Clinton

    She attends all the right international conferences. She issues all the proper communiques.

    The epitome of a third-rate Secretary of State.

  17. Pseudodionysius
    Denise McAllister: I was much more impressed with how Rand handled the questioning today than how Rubio did. Amid all the salivating and fawning, Rand was refreshing. Unlike all the others, Rand appeared, at least to me, like he was just doing his duty to get out some measure of praise so he could get to what was important. I appreciated that.

    Also, are hearings really the time to heap praise on a witness? Do it in the back rooms or at a celebratory cocktail party, but not during a hearing. Ridiculous. · 5 hours ago

    The Senatorial tongue bath of Secretary Not Named After Edmund Hillary Clinton during a serious flu outbreak is cause for concern on both sides of the aisle.

  18. D.C. McAllister
    C

    Pseudodionysius–let’s just hope they all had their vaccinations.

  19. Pseudodionysius
    Denise McAllister: Pseudodionysius–let’s just hope they all had their vaccinations. · 0 minutes ago

    The GOP looked like a dog that won’t hunt today, so I’m less concerned about rabies and more concerned about heartworm.

  20. Benjamin Glaser

    I think it has a lot to do with being prepared. I get the feeling a lot of Senators/Congressmen don’t really prepare themselves for these meetings and are just reading a memo prepared by a staffer.